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I want 1 vs 1 PVP Assurance (Duel System)
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Haulie Berry
#21 - 2012-05-09 19:23:03 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
Bring the 1 vs 1 PVP to Eve.

I propose this:

Max Payneson > I want CCP to introduce a Duel System to Eve Online: Duel Invite window will flag the character that accepts the duel, and Both Characters invulved in a Duel Can no longer be targetted by Any outsiders. Finally a GREEN wreck only lootable By duel winner...



There is absolutely no way this incredibly stupid idea could be exploited.

None at all.
Ben Arwhal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-09 19:37:50 UTC
I have nothing constructive to say, just Jesus Christ RANDOM capitilization OF woRDS!
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-09 19:50:03 UTC
the system already exists with just a smidge of effort.

1v1 only with ppl in player corps that don't look like a front, or even better a corp that advertises that they honor them

fleet up

meet at a safe (your safe maybe mr paranoid)

if they drop fleet its a trap, gtfo set them red and move on. If the corp they belong to has a 1v1 policy, get political. I 1v1 ALL OF THE F*CKING TIME and almost never get it dishonored by using this method backed with common sense.

I has all the eve inactivity
Alonzo Odantis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-05-09 20:09:09 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
Bring the 1 vs 1 PVP to Eve.

I propose this:

Max Payneson > I want CCP to introduce a Duel System to Eve Online: Duel Invite window will flag the character that accepts the duel, and Both Characters invulved in a Duel Can no longer be targetted by Any outsiders. Finally a GREEN wreck only lootable By duel winner...



You know those countless movies where the bad guy wants to meet the good guy "alone" to exchange: the money, the hostage, etc etc?

You know how in those western movies there was always some jackass with a rifle watching from above?

That's what makes good guys and bad guys.

Do you see two ruthless fighter pilot/pirates agreeing to a true 1v1?

If they are good guys you are dueling, then you don't have to worry about it do you?

If they are bad guys, they why are you upset they are allowed to be bad guys?


I'm a duelist by nature in online games. I love 1v1. That being said, what makes eve amazing (been playing a week or so now) is that for once the realism of helping a friend or stabbing someone in the back is there to be had.

"Oh a nice honor duel...but I don't like person A...time to mess that up for them"

You can stop me too, there's no magic system that makes my sneaky ass invulnerable to it. Bring in your own 3-4 friends with stealth to hide and wait...if you're inclined to honor the duel, do so. If someone pops up to help, make them regret it.

That's your dueling system.



With the system you propose people would just 1v1 each other and make themselves invulnerable to others and use it as a griefing tool.

Vultirnus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-05-09 20:16:31 UTC
I think the fact that it is possible in the game to DIShonor a 1v1 is a more attractive game mechanic than one that would make it impossible to do so.

The mechanic you have purposed as it is can't be implemented. There are too many ways to exploit it. Also like other people have said already, 1v1 PVP is alive in eve. It's up to you to go find it. I 1v1 all the time.

http://voicevvvoid.wordpress.com/
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#26 - 2012-05-09 20:48:09 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
Bring the 1 vs 1 PVP to Eve.

I propose this:

Max Payneson > I want CCP to introduce a Duel System to Eve Online: Duel Invite window will flag the character that accepts the duel, and Both Characters invulved in a Duel Can no longer be targetted by Any outsiders. Finally a GREEN wreck only lootable By duel winner...


I'm sure if there was some system like this in place that people would find a way to abuse it. The fact remains that EVE is not Unreal Tournament. Anything that could happen in space realistically should be able to happen in game, and anything completely unrealistic such as a cage match that no outside force can influence should ever exist.

For example, is there any sort of reality where it was 100% impossible for two guys wanting to fight IRL couldn't be interrupted or unfairly assisted? No. If I wanted to and had enough manpower to do it, I could crash a De la Hoya fight in Vegas and screw up the fight. Is it likely? Of course not. I'd get my face kicked in by fans and the police, but it's not in the realm of the impossible. What you are asking for is. EVE is a living-in-space simulator, not an arena game that allows for such impossibilities.

If you want to ensure a fair match, have your own buddies on standby to do some curb stomping if anyone other than the parties agreeing to the 1v1 get involved. Get your own logi, ECM, BS's and whatever on standby. At the first sign of shennanigans have them come in and serve justice. Just make sure they are in your corp and both "fighters" have taken from eachother's cans if you're doing it in highsec. Don't fire a single shot until they do.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-05-09 21:05:07 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
Bring the 1 vs 1 PVP to Eve.

I propose this:

Max Payneson > I want CCP to introduce a Duel System to Eve Online: Duel Invite window will flag the character that accepts the duel, and Both Characters invulved in a Duel Can no longer be targetted by Any outsiders. Finally a GREEN wreck only lootable By duel winner...


Go to WoW or Aeon. They have dueling. This is Eve.
Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-05-09 21:05:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Annie Anomie
No.

It's a big part of what EVE is that the assurances you have are all player interaction.

It makes it much more meaningful* that people do not dishonour if they have the option of doing so.

Then it's truly reputation and not handholding.

* SoTF kick people for breaking their word where 1vs1's are concerned. This is what we pay for our reputation. This means more than having a duel enforced.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#29 - 2012-05-09 23:28:53 UTC
In this game there should be a way to demostrate who is the better pilot, but the truth is that it dosnt exist. Success in Eve Online is measured by how many friends you have by your side rather than how good a pilot you are. I just would like to see a way for single pilot to be measured against another pilot in a fair way, but to be honest i dont see it happening. All i can see is people afraid of the idea that 1 pilot can demostrate that he is better than You under same circunstances.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-05-09 23:50:03 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
In this game there should be a way to demostrate who is the better pilot, but the truth is that it dosnt exist. Success in Eve Online is measured by how many friends you have by your side rather than how good a pilot you are. I just would like to see a way for single pilot to be measured against another pilot in a fair way, but to be honest i dont see it happening. All i can see is people afraid of the idea that 1 pilot can demostrate that he is better than You under same circunstances.


Welcome to EVE-Online, internet spaceship MMORPG. You seem to be new here.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#31 - 2012-05-09 23:57:17 UTC
Its simple mechanics:

1. Invite to Duel tab.

2. Duel accept window with the traditional advise.

3. Both duelers lockdown (Cant be targetted by any other players during Duel).

4. A 15 minute timer (In case non of the duelers cant break each others tank, after 15 minutes Flag goes down).

5. Finally a green wreck only lootable by Duel winner.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#32 - 2012-05-09 23:58:11 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
The Sinister wrote:
In this game there should be a way to demostrate who is the better pilot, but the truth is that it dosnt exist. Success in Eve Online is measured by how many friends you have by your side rather than how good a pilot you are. I just would like to see a way for single pilot to be measured against another pilot in a fair way, but to be honest i dont see it happening. All i can see is people afraid of the idea that 1 pilot can demostrate that he is better than You under same circunstances.


Welcome to EVE-Online, internet spaceship MMORPG. You seem to be new here.


Been Playing since 2003.
Vladimir McSquizzle
Squizzinators Inc
#33 - 2012-05-10 00:13:09 UTC
EmpireOfDust wrote:
Sandbox... Artificial restrictions **** it up. Also RanDOM capitalisation HELPS me get My point across.

^^ This
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#34 - 2012-05-10 04:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
The Sinister wrote:
whats the point of playing Eve if u cant do it SOLO. I dont like depending on others to success.


Welcome to EVE, it's an MMO that you play on the internet with other people.

edit- aww someone beat me to it

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#35 - 2012-05-10 07:45:46 UTC
Schalac wrote:
The Sinister wrote:
And i think this is a fail suggestion.

I agree with you.


I am also agree.

Every decent pilot respects agreed 1vs1s, maybe you should leave hisec .

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Tysinger
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#36 - 2012-05-10 08:13:46 UTC
Dear OP...



You are a Fkn ******.
Abbadon21
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#37 - 2012-05-10 14:17:45 UTC
Solo PVP is possible without a duel system, so are fair 1vs1's. I wrote an article about how to get a fair 1vs1 here: http://www.eveproguides.com/the-1vs1/

It's not 100% fool proof but most the time it works.

Learn How PRO Players Make Billions of ISK and Dominate PVP: http://www.EVEProGuides.com
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#38 - 2012-05-10 14:59:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ava Starfire
The Sinister wrote:
Well almost no one Honors a 1 vs 1 fight these days. Thy always have a Remote Repair gang on stand by and you never get a 1 vs 1 in the end. So i propose new mechanic that allows us to get a fair 1 vs 1 Fight. After all PVP stands for Player Vs Player and not Player Vs PlayerS. I want assurance that if i engage in a fight it will be only 1 vs 1 and no me vs many. And i think this is a fail suggestion.


Not sure if trolling or stupid. Or genius?

Edited, cause reading, its hard

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-10 15:03:34 UTC
You wan't an assured wayof fighting people 1 v 1 with no interference or anything?

Wrong game mate
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#40 - 2012-05-10 15:36:59 UTC
Why are people always trying to ruin the sandbox?

Just no, learn to find 1v1 if that is what you are in to...its easy as hell. I especially enjoy forcing a 1v1 when the person expects to be saved by his blob. Stuff like that is what makes Eve so much fun.

There are plenty of crap WoW clones that can offer you structured PvP with rules...that doesn't belong in Eve.

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