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Revising Killmails
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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-09 22:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: masternerdguy
While CCP is revising killmails I think it is fair to say that everyone in the fleet should automatically be on any kills someone in that fleet makes. This would solve the following problems.


  • RR/Logi not being able to get on killmails. They can't aggress afterall.
  • Off grid booster alts would show up on mails meaning that many "solo" pvpers will be debunked.
  • No more holding the pod for 200 seconds so that guy who brought the carrier can get on the mail.


Also,

People can focus on the fight with knowledge they are on the killmail, making the game better.
Scouts get on kill mails.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Bel Amar
Rules of Acquisition
#2 - 2012-05-09 22:51:22 UTC
Anyone in fleet in the same system perhaps...

Oh, and wrong forum...
Greyscale Dash
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-09 22:52:58 UTC
Bel Amar wrote:
Anyone in fleet in the same system perhaps...

Oh, and wrong forum...


What about a scout who is in a different system?
Bel Amar
Rules of Acquisition
#4 - 2012-05-09 22:57:02 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
What about a scout who is in a different system?


What about those 10 guys AFK'ing in fleet who didn't add anything to the fight?
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-05-09 23:14:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Katja Faith
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Bel Amar wrote:
Anyone in fleet in the same system perhaps...

Oh, and wrong forum...


What about a scout who is in a different system?


What about the Indy toon that supplied the ammo?

What about the corpie who loaned his ship to a buddy?

What about the maintenance person who mopped the floor outside the FC's Captain's Quarters??

Fair is fair, damn it!

Troll on, masturbateguy....
Mathias Hex
#6 - 2012-05-09 23:15:07 UTC
masterturdburglar

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#7 - 2012-05-09 23:32:36 UTC
My parents keep bugging me that they want to be on my killmails, will that happen now and finally get them off my back?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

gulftobay
Mesotopia
#8 - 2012-05-09 23:39:48 UTC
Mathias Hex wrote:
masterturdburglar


Not enough attention as a kid is my best guess.
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-09 23:52:09 UTC
I think it should be tied to anyone involved in the kill..

If you provide RR to a killing party, you get on the KM.
If you provide boosts to a killing party, you get on the KM.

If you are just in fleet, doing nothing. You get nothing.

Even state in the KM what they did [ Remote Armor Rep.. Shield Transfer.. Leadership Boots, Skirmish Warfare Link.. ]

Anyone involved gets credit.. anyone who just happened to be there gets **** all. They didn't do anything, they don't get anything.. But I do think the Logi and the Boosters deserve their credit, as they are providing to the battle.
Mathias Hex
#10 - 2012-05-10 00:18:44 UTC
gulftobay wrote:
Mathias Hex wrote:
masterturdburglar


Not enough attention as a kid is my best guess.


Yes I believe that is why he makes so many threads. Big smile

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-05-10 00:20:11 UTC
Never do this

how would i be able to claim im a solo pvp master if all of my alts got on the killmail as well.

:)
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#12 - 2012-05-10 01:14:40 UTC
Whatever.

Just make it so that when you get killed by concord there's a nice big "Look at me. I'm a loser" killmail generated.

Mission runners won't care. But damn I look forward to the ganker tears.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lexmana
#13 - 2012-05-10 07:03:38 UTC
I like it. It also means that players that have fleeted backup ready (alts or friends) will not show up as solo, which they ofc are not.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#14 - 2012-05-10 07:30:57 UTC
Actually a pretty thoughtful request, and I'd agree that anyone doing anything active in a fleet should be listed on the kill report as supporter or similar, anything that affects a fleet member by module should get listed - even cyno alts providing the cyno.

Would be pretty cool to see how much shield/energy/armor was transferred by the support guy listed on the mail too, just as it shows damage dealt.

Only problem with this, is that the kill report only shows the victim and the aggressors - not for example the victim's support, which in the case of RR one wouldn't be able to see how much RR he received unless everything is included in the report - which would make big fleet reports MASSIVE in terms of involved pilots.

But overall a nice idea.

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Vulix
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-05-10 08:05:59 UTC
This idea sucks because if enacted I can't kill pods right away in my frigate and whore the mail for myself.
Jupix
MuroBBS United
#16 - 2012-05-10 09:35:46 UTC
I propose we remove killmails completely

Also, I fail !
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-05-10 09:52:08 UTC
Isn't all this covered by the new battle reports they announced at fanfest?