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That in itself will not make a militia successful.


The real issue actually becomes if one militia is dominating so powerfully and cleans up a whole system, they can't make any more LP.

Ships to shoot will dry up, plexes to attack will dry up, ihubs to attack will be gone, etc.


So, success will have its own failures. The losing side may actually be able to provide cheaper datacores and LP through guerilla style tactics (hitting plexes on off hours, and so on) despite losing.

All the faction war stuff is good, and all, I'd join it if RvB isn't like a vastly cheaper consequence free version of fw. I say the biggest problem with people joining faction war is the massive standing loss that they will receive with the opposing faction. While it completely makes sense to do so, it kills most of my ambition to join as I might join a corp later on in my eve career that lives in the area of Empire that you can't be in for having low standings.

The data cores will be a disaster for all non FW people with R&D agents. I myself have invested a lot of time and money to become a self sufficient T2 producer on a single account (trained all 3 toons for R&D, no alt accounts). All this time I invested was for being able to cash in on the datacores I researched by using them directly to make stuff so i can fund pvp without ratting or grinding missions. You need to look at the whole chain of t2 production, the datacore is the passive phase of process. Making these changes will lead to the exact same situation we had with rigs being too expensive to use a couple years ago. The major difference is that EVERYBODY uses t2 right now, everything from the ships to t2 drones will go up in price to meet demand, and then nobody will be able to fly anything remotely cheap, so they will be reluctant to loose it.

Unless your ultimate goal is to have people just buy plexes to cash in to fund their PVP, leave the RP alone.

um... you haven't been watching the Next store issues and a good number of other things?

It wouldn't matter to pirates b/c w/ the new crimewatch outlaws can buy officer and commander tags and up their standings.

Two comments about the changes:



Please take dropped items into consideration in that formula. They should either pay half compared to the destroyed ones, or nothing at all. This is important to prevent exploiting it.




This seems to be more annoying than anything. The only thing it will accomplish is to force FW combatants to drop FW or leave their player corp for a few days so that they can grab their assets again. And did I mention doing this will annoy a lot of people?

If the idea is to give people incentives to defend a system, then just put a fine for docking, instead of preventing it. The fine could be isk and/or LP and the value could either be fixed or some function based on how long the opposing faction is holding the system or how much upgraded is its iHub.

All in all, the changes look solid.

and to get people that wouldn't normally buy plex to buy More plex

you may be paying for your subscription now, but if you cant fund your various activities in the game with ingame made isk, you might buy plex to supplement your income,

while that doesn't change the fact that you are supplying someone else's game time, having Plex related sinks, (like the Next store) means that some of your cash is buying ingame items and not going to be used for the extension of someones account.

If Next store stuff was there solely for the purposes of Isk inflation then it would be directly purchasable for isk. however it is not. the involvment Plex means that it is more directly related to cash income then isk inflation control.

with the ship LP changes, it makes a lot of sense for FW players to keep abnormally high ship costs in the regions that are contested while alt shipping in ships to be put on contracts for either side to purchase. Because it is now in the best interests for both factions to keep market prices high, they will no longer compete for cheap ships for their own militas on the open market. but rather through contracts which are not counted in the LP price index for ships/fittings.

Destroying a Punisher with tech 1 fitting: gained LP = (450k ISK – 312k ISK + 100k ISK + 0) / 10000 = around 24 LP (previous system would have paid 25 LP)

now fit that punisher with a market manipulated module, Republic Fleet Thermic plating est cost 100k isk, set price on Placid market 100 million isk, In heavy sov upgrades system market cost cheaper, it currently costs me (a nonFW player but with good regional faction standings) approx 1 million to place module on the market, with no buy orders or competing modules market price is now 100 million for a cheap module.

Destroying a punisher with tech 1 fitting:gained LP =(450k isk - 312k isk + 100 million isk +0)/1000 = 100,138 LP
(overheat a lowslot mod for a few seconds to encourage the item being destroyed)

Punisher has 4 lowslots, add four of those modules.
now make that module worth one billion, or ten billion ....

Just have one question... moving datacores to FW LP stores means that they can't be obtained through research agents as usual?

Regarding R&D agent changes to make sure I understand:
1. The RP/day rates for datacores that currently cost 50RP staying the same, effectively halving the amount that can be obtained in a given period of time.
2. RP for other types with different multipliers will end up the same due to their multipliers being removed

If those are correct, does this mean that RP for an x3 modifier datacore can be used to purchase 3(+10k isk/core) after the change for every 2 you would be able to purchase now? Or are the amounts of already accumulated RP going to be altered to account for this?

Also will R&D agent prices for datacores be changing with factional FW performance or is this just the FW LP obtained cores?

Do the devs have any plans to expand/change what system upgrades do? Because right now there isn't a great deal of incentive for people to invest their scarce LP in improvements, because the improvements are pretty weaksauce. Reduced clone costs aren't going to be that big a deal because the relative ease of getting your pod out in lowsec; lowsec industry and commerce is virtually non-existent (as far as I'm aware) on account of logistical issues, and a fairly paltry improvement isn't about to make anyone change their minds.

Assorted terrible ideas
-Reduced repair costs in upgraded systems (militia-only)
-Improved insurance payout for insurance contracts purchased in upgraded systems (milita-only)
-Bonuses to production of faction-appropriate ships and modules in upgraded militia systems.

I agree with the sentiments people have already expressed on the subject of positive feedback, but I don't really have anything to add on that front other than concern.