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COSMOS/Epic Arcs/Complexes

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Noir Nana
Say No To Corps
#1 - 2012-05-09 15:56:57 UTC
So, a little break from WH space. I was wondering if COSMOS missions and Epic Arcs worth doing (in terms of ISK) compared to level 4s. And I have no idea about complexes. I just know that there are two types, those that require scanning and those that are warpable via a beacon.

Any insight would be appreciated, thanks.
L0rdF1end
Tactical Grace.
Vanguard.
#2 - 2012-05-09 16:20:22 UTC
Such a huge question dude.

I know nothing about Epic Arks but i'm pretty sure level 4's solo is going to be more ISK, either that or go for Incursions.

An alternative option is wormhole life.

In regards to plexing, its random reward and best done in nullsec. You really want to be able to find and run 7/10's upwards for the most reward.

Personally I love plexing in nullsec for isk, i like the exploration and the threat of being found mid plex, quite exciting. And when something decent drops its like an unexpected payday.

Good luck but i seriously recommend doing your own research before posting such a wide question.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2012-05-09 17:03:21 UTC
List of rewards even: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/COSMOS_constellation

Epics: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-05-09 17:13:22 UTC
COSMOS missions are one-time missions (for the most part) that require some standings to run with the various factions. They can grant significant faction standing. Their special rewards tend to come in the form of BPCs for odd items that don't see a whole lot of use. You can check out the basics here:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/COSMOS

They can be a major undertaking if you want to run them all. Many guides are available; search around.

There are seven total epic arcs including the starting arc for Sisters of Eve. They can be repeated once every 3 months. They all require faction standings to start. Two of the arcs are pirate arcs (Guristas and Angels). These take place in null and are gate-limited to frigates. Their final payouts are faction cruiser BPCs (Gila and Cynabal respectively). Guides are out there and if you want to go all-out, buy Substantia Nigra's guides.

The four empire arcs are primarily in high sec with low and null options. They require relatively high faction standings (or standings with odd corporations) to start. The missions are harder than normal L4s, and both the Gallente arc and the Amarr arc have a reputation of very high damage. Poke around; there are guides available for these.

As you noted, exploration is broken in to anomalies, which can be scanned with the on-board scanner, and scanned sites. This breaks down the types of sites fairly well:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101357
Caldari Citizen 786478786
#5 - 2012-05-09 18:12:54 UTC
IIRC, the Caldari Epic Arc was the only one worth running of the four major faction arcs in terms of ISK gained vs. time spent. By the end of it you can expect to have earned close to 1bil ISK, though you may need to spend some ISK for some of the tags you'll need - unless you don't mind farming the tags from static complexes.

At most you'll need a decently tanked T1 battleship or, better yet, a T3. A few of the missions take you into a lowsec area of Caldari space that is camped by pirates who are well aware of the areas significance as a COSMOS mission hub, You'll also need a T1 industrial (can be easily purchased in the area when you need it) and a Covops or other cloaked ship for a brief run into Nullsec.

In regards to PLEXing, and despite what Lordfiend claims, it is best done wherever you feel most comfortable. Highsec PLEXes (the DED variety that need to be scanned down) randomly drop Deadspace loot with value ranging from only a few million, up to and over 1bil ISK. Lowsec PLEXes are very similar, though with far less competition, a slightly higher degree of difficulty as well as slightly increased value of potential drops. Nullsec really requires you to have access to local stations as you'll want to travel cloaked, but you'll not likely want to run the sites with a cloak (especially if you're in a T3). Also, High and Lowsec let you avoid the Logistical hassle that Nullsec can be unless you're part of an entity which has already established themselves in Null.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#6 - 2012-05-10 10:46:08 UTC
Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:
IIRC, the Caldari Epic Arc was the only one worth running of the four major faction arcs in terms of ISK gained vs. time spent. .


The POINT of these Epics is to raise the Faction Standings while having no net effect on any other Faction Standing.

ISK is Irrelevant.

But I think they teach otherwise in school anymore. What do I know..............

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Ayzn Betokhn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2012-05-10 20:36:49 UTC
I can answer for the angel cartel epic arc. The rewards from this series include 1 domination target painter and a 1 run cynabal blueprint copy. Plus bounties from the missions in the range of 40-50 million. If you check the price of the faction target painter on contracts and a cynabal on the market, you can see that the payout is pretty good for a series of missionis that take less than one day to complete. For the time it can take, I think this beats level 4 missions. (Although I thought that wormholes were the most lucrative areas except for a technitium moon collection). The downside is that the pirate arcs are in 0.0, so bubble camps can be a big problem, and not paying attention or staying awake can have a bad outcome if your mission gets probed down. The angel arc can be done in a stealth bomber except for the final mission. T2 frigates can enter the mission areas (assault frigates, interceptors) but no cloaky tengus. As referenced in an earlier reply, there is a guide/collection of bookmarks available for purchase to help with navigating the hazards.

If you make the right choice for the caldari faction arc, the reward is a hyosuda (I know that is spelled wrong) mobile laboratory, check contracts for mobile laboratory and the reward will show up there. One of the minmatar faction arc choices gives out RSS scanning probes which are a touch better than sisters' probes, so those might be worth your time. The faction epic arcs are much more time consuming than the angel arc, and my impression is that the faction arc combat missions are more difficult than level 4 missions (certainly doable, but requiring more warpouts before finishing).
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-10 21:21:24 UTC
I did the amarr cosmos missions for standings, they're not really worth it if you go for the isk, but in the end you have access to I thought a 1 billion isk implant, but if you look at the time it took it wasn't much isk/hour. If you like stories, read the missions, It's a nice story unfolding. The standings increase is huge but if you do it for standings I would advise to at least bring your factions standings up to 4 or 5 before you start. When you're done you can give corporations the ability to anchor posses in highsec. Pretty large time investmen though.

I did the amarr epic arc. Took the lowsec branch. The first two highsec chapters are boring, just bring a very well tanked ship, because the damage will be high quite a lot higher then a hard lvl, I'd say recon 1/1 second room times 2. The lowsec part was a bit more fun. In the end, maybe fun to do once, Isk/hour was crap.

I did the angel epic are. And keep doing it every three months in my dramiel. Some of the missions are fun to run and it's a 0.0 hostile environment so you have to be on your toes. 350M in like 2 hours, I'd call that worth it. Just make sure to get tacticals of all the gates in the surrounding systems.
Arec Bardwin
#9 - 2012-05-10 21:42:28 UTC
Just pick the cosmos missions that give out decent rewards; michi and akemon implants plus various storyline cloaks.
Caldari Citizen 786478786
#10 - 2012-05-11 02:08:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:
IIRC, the Caldari Epic Arc was the only one worth running of the four major faction arcs in terms of ISK gained vs. time spent. .


The POINT of these Epics is to raise the Faction Standings while having no net effect on any other Faction Standing.

ISK is Irrelevant.

But I think they teach otherwise in school anymore. What do I know..............


Don't be stupid. ISK is most certainly relevant, especially when the OP specifically said:

Noir Nana wrote:
"I was wondering if COSMOS missions and Epic Arcs worth doing (in terms of ISK) compared to level 4s."
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-11 21:30:19 UTC
Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:


Don't be stupid. ISK is most certainly relevant, especially when the OP specifically said:

Noir Nana wrote:
"I was wondering if COSMOS missions and Epic Arcs worth doing (in terms of ISK) compared to level 4s."
Ok, Pirate arcs are worth your time, rest is not, that's if you look at isk only.