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Are you kidding me....?

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EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-09 15:31:38 UTC  |  Edited by: EmmerTemp
http://i.imgur.com/XVIiz.jpg

Thats going to be a game breaker, if it works like I think it works
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#2 - 2012-05-09 15:40:56 UTC
EmmerTemp wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/XVIiz.jpg

Thats going to be a game breaker, if it works like I think it works


Why don't you tell us how you think it works?
Like 5 people target you it wont likely break any locks yet if 50 people target you, you have a a very very good chance at breaking a lock?
And you aren't jamming everyone, they just simply lose lock.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2012-05-09 15:44:10 UTC
Well, it doesn't say how high the percentage chance is, I'm assuming it would be abysmally small.

It'll be interesting to see how it works out, though the ability to fit it to Cruisers and BSes seems a bit much for me, I think it should probably be a relatively uncommon module, atleast something you can't just tell everyone to have one.
EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-09 15:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: EmmerTemp
Well... just look at it in a 250 vs 250 fleet fight.
It is going to be very hard to kill any other Battleship that if primary with this module fitted..
20second cooldown is very, very short... telling someone to shoot someone, waiting for them to lock, waiting to shoot the primary... Time is up; module activate... try again

Else:
It is armour favoured (again)
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2012-05-09 15:51:14 UTC
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-05-09 15:52:06 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


Epic dev burn Blink
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-05-09 15:53:58 UTC
Don't underestimate peoples ability to forget pushing the butan.
EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-09 15:54:41 UTC
Kinda hard to arrange a 250vs250 fight on Sisi...
but with coming Masstests I will centainly try it out
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#9 - 2012-05-09 15:55:07 UTC
Are these getting seeded to day?

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See you around the universe.

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-05-09 16:01:08 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Are these getting seeded to day?


Not seeded, as they don't have a market group yet, but I gave some out earlier and we will put up a sell order when the market group gets updated.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#11 - 2012-05-09 16:01:13 UTC
On another note, is there a list of new modules introduced on the market with the current set of builds? I'm asking because this one here totally went by me.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-05-09 16:01:52 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


That's fine, but we can only conveniently test this particular module in smallish engagements. The module on the other hand seems to be designed to be used in large scale combat. Such conditions aren't exactly easy to produce on demand for testing purposes, so couldn't you just save us a lot of time and effort and tell us the formula it uses. That way people can test and try to break it, providing you with actual, useful feedback instead of specualtion and guesstimates.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-05-09 16:04:30 UTC
Sirinda wrote:
On another note, is there a list of new modules introduced on the market with the current set of builds? I'm asking because this one here totally went by me.


Superfriends haven't given me a definitive list yet but once they do I will post it on the features thread Smile

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-09 16:04:48 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


That's fine, but we can only conveniently test this particular module in smallish engagements. The module on the other hand seems to be designed to be used in large scale combat. Such conditions aren't exactly easy to produce on demand for testing purposes, so couldn't you just save us a lot of time and effort and tell us the formula it uses. That way people can test and try to break it, providing you with actual, useful feedback instead of specualtion and guesstimates.


Agreed... what are the chances of it succesfully breaking a lock (or multiple)
does it take 2 locks on you or 200 before it becomes usefull.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#15 - 2012-05-09 16:05:59 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Sirinda wrote:
On another note, is there a list of new modules introduced on the market with the current set of builds? I'm asking because this one here totally went by me.


Superfriends haven't given me a definitive list yet but once they do I will post it on the features thread Smile


Roger that, I'm looking forward to it.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#16 - 2012-05-09 16:06:32 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


That's fine, but we can only conveniently test this particular module in smallish engagements. The module on the other hand seems to be designed to be used in large scale combat. Such conditions aren't exactly easy to produce on demand for testing purposes, so couldn't you just save us a lot of time and effort and tell us the formula it uses. That way people can test and try to break it, providing you with actual, useful feedback instead of specualtion and guesstimates.

Mass test tomorrowTwisted

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2012-05-09 16:06:55 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


That's fine, but we can only conveniently test this particular module in smallish engagements. The module on the other hand seems to be designed to be used in large scale combat. Such conditions aren't exactly easy to produce on demand for testing purposes, so couldn't you just save us a lot of time and effort and tell us the formula it uses. That way people can test and try to break it, providing you with actual, useful feedback instead of specualtion and guesstimates.


Masstest tomorrow, and you could always test it in dungeons/missions, which can have a very large amount of entities targeting you.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath

mxzf
Shovel Bros
#18 - 2012-05-09 16:09:30 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
I say this firmly with tongue in cheek, but maybe the slogan for Sisi right now should be "Try before you cry" Twisted


That's fine, but we can only conveniently test this particular module in smallish engagements. The module on the other hand seems to be designed to be used in large scale combat. Such conditions aren't exactly easy to produce on demand for testing purposes, so couldn't you just save us a lot of time and effort and tell us the formula it uses. That way people can test and try to break it, providing you with actual, useful feedback instead of specualtion and guesstimates.


This. The formula is going to be discovered sooner or later and people will find the break-even point at which it starts to become optimally effective. It'd be best if it were released sooner so that we can get our calculus done with and out of the way and point out how broken it can be. Hopefully we can give statistical input before it hits TQ and it can be tweaked accordingly.
EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-09 16:14:12 UTC
Tweaking; like making it a high slot maybe... so Armor and Shield fleet will like it (or hate it)

But yeah... good idea to test it in Anoms and Missions... I will
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#20 - 2012-05-09 16:15:24 UTC
i will laugh all day if its mostly breaking the logistics-lock and not the enemies one.
dont think there is an easy way to decide that one targeter is hostile and will shoot you in future and the other one is a friend
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