Warfare & Tactics

So I lost out to a Vexor and a couple of other ships in a 2vs3, maybe I'm asking an obvious question but would it have been better for me to burn off from the other ships and try and take out the Vexor's drones? I have barrage loaded at the time but could have switched to EMP...

Any insightful tips?

I support above

Eve is kinda rock paper scissors, and that fight is taking paper up against scissors, a vexor is very good against smaller targets.

That being said, while fast vexors exist, it is much more likely to be fighting one that has a 1600mm plate which.should make it rather slow. If you stay outside of scram range you should be able to pick off the drones, I know my arty thrashed will alpha warriors at range, but you are going to have to pulse and maybe overheat your mwd to get drones to mwd at you, when they do this they tend.to be very easy to hit.

A vexor, like most cruisers will likely have a med neut, so any fit that has you get within 13km is not a fit you want to be in, a destroyer can have its cap alphaed with ease from a cruiser. So your only real choice in most fights like this is to nano fit and dictate range.

Run away.

1. It's a good bird, but not "special." There's plenty of drone boats out there...and the Vexor doesn't really do it much different than any of those.

2. Arguable. You CAN, sure. But you'd really need to drop some serious cash into that Vexor to do it.

3. True statement, but understand that you are trading DPS for tank. Almost any decent ship can "choose" to that, but is it a good idea?

4. Baddie Draek and 'clone pilots. The end. I'd destroy you in a gank fit Drake all by myself every day...and twice on Sunday.

5. I beg to differ, but that's a matter of opinion I suppose.

6. HUGE WEAKNESS. The drones will get to me before you can begin to apply significant DPS. Web/pop the drones, then kite you with occasional transversal patterns to allow my tank to regen. TBH - with your shyte tank, I'd pop you without needing to anything cute.

Anytime you want to give it a go, let a brother know.

1600 plated and trimarked Brick Vexor is a tough customer for frigs and Dessies because it fits small guns and has no cap issues. Most cruisers will lose to it if it gets within web and scram range.

I carry mediums drones, warriors, and a flight of light ECMs. Fight on gates. Any cruiser that can kite it (ruptures and stabbers) can't kill it quick enough before it can de-agress and jump.

The main problem with Vexors is that it is a Swiss army knife and can be fit so many ways. Shield gank, neut, small gun brick, medium gun active tank, 1600+rep+ACs, rail nano, etc. Most of those fits are tough for smaller ships because it can always carry a flight of warriors or hobgoblins. Really it's better to just avoid it in small ships solo or with less than 4 AFs. The brick version can kill 2 or 3 AFs before it dies.

Of course a gank drake will beat a Vexor. Where did I say otherwise? If you actually read the post, you will see I was talking about small ships.

The 1600+rep is situational as it doesn't have a cap booster, but it works well enough. The brick version is better IMHO. Fought solo 2xAF and a drake last week. Killed one AF and had the 2nd in 10% structure before I popped, and he would have died if I had overheated sooner. If it had been another AF instead of the drake, pretty sure I would have killed all 3 or been able to dock. And I am no pvp pro.

Im on my iPad, so I cant post the fit, but it is something like:

1600,2xEANM, DCU
Web, scram, MWD (or AB)
4x light neutrons or 200mm AC, Small or medium neut (depending on rigs)

And either 3x trimarks or 2x trimarks + ACR if you want a medium neut. Personally, I prefer the medium neut.

Fair point. How about my Caracal or Moa, your choice, vs. your Vexor? Deal?

Thanks for the info guys, looks like I'll be takin the ruppie out from now on.

If a Frigate is scrammed and webbed, yes. If not, Warrior IIs.

Also... what Mob was referring to is the 2-2-1 configuration: 2 heavies, 2 mediums, 1 light.

And a smart Vexor pilot will not release his "heavy" drones until he has a target scrammed and webbed.

There is also this "little" beauty...

[Vexor - lolThorax]

[Lows]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten I

[Mids]
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

[Highs]
Heavy Ion Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter)
Heavy Ion Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter)
Heavy Ion Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter)
Heavy Ion Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter)
(empty)

[Rigs]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

[Drones]
2x Ogre II
2x Hammerhead II
1x Hobgoblin II
5x Warrior II

Notes: Less tank, but also much lighter and more agile than the 1600 version... and it deals a fair bit of pain... like... 500+ DPS of pain.

edit: actually... with almost the exact same setups the Vexor still manages to squeeze out a bit more DPS than the Thorax. And it will continue to deal the majority of its damage when ECM'ed.