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[PROPOSAL] Support Tug-class Vessel

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#141 - 2012-04-23 16:02:26 UTC
Kattrina Incandenza wrote:
I like this idea, either as an ORE ship or as a faction specific ships. Why ORE? Easier for our friends at CCP to make one ship than to have them make 4 or 5. I'm not abundantly concerned if the majority of people only trained one factional transport and there are plenty of other things of a non-military nature that ORE might have used this sort of technology to do... but really its more that I'd like to see this sooner than later, and sooner is 1-2 ships rather than a half a dozen.

+1


ORE wouldn't get involved in anything that could be remotely considered military operations (and transport of military vessels would fall into that category). And each factional group would select the group that is more involved in mass transit/transport to get things going.

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Sepheir Sepheron
State War Academy
Caldari State
#142 - 2012-04-23 16:29:08 UTC
Wait I don't get it why don't you just get a carrier?
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#143 - 2012-04-25 06:56:06 UTC
The future of actual logistics (as opposed to logistics ships) is just in need of getting in the hands of the developers. We're not just talking nullsec either, we're talking this could be easily used all through New Eden, especially if an eventual T2 jump capable version were to come out.

If I feel like it tomorrow, I may actually break out the pencil and paper, and sketch up some ideas for the model for at least one of the races.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#144 - 2012-04-25 16:18:38 UTC
Okay, so I'm going to be cleaning my garage instead as I just moved in an attempt to turn it into personal space so I have a nice place to game. So the sketches will be waiting a few days. But keep the suggestions rolling, and try to get this idea to CSM or Dev attention.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#145 - 2012-04-26 15:52:16 UTC
So yeah, my sketching of the proposed vessel hulls didn't exactly come along, but I will get to it. Until then, please keep the ideas and suggestions rolling in. I will also be cleaning up the original post with some of the detailed ideas that have been given. Thank you all for your support and input.

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Corian Teranos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-04-29 18:00:56 UTC
+1 i have been asking about civilian carriers for a long time now.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#147 - 2012-04-29 21:50:33 UTC
Thanks for the support mate.

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Corian Teranos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-04-30 14:59:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Corian Teranos
though considering CCP's general laziness instead of a whole new ship why not just give the existing ORCA Subsystem modules similar to the tengu and allow it to be configured for cargo, ship transport, even salvaging, and solo mining. basically turn the ship into a fully customizable multipurpose capital industrial platform
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#149 - 2012-05-01 00:47:36 UTC
But, as I said, ORE wouldn't be caught dead hauling anything that could even be mistaken as military equipment. It goes back to them being a quasi-neutral party.

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Silveratus Andreas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-05-01 09:12:53 UTC
Now this is a ship I can get behind. Especially any time I move to a different section in space... Also helps to clear out a hanger for pirating XD

+1
Teshania
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-05-01 12:44:31 UTC
You really should Evemail all the CSM with this thread ^^ .. make sure they get it so its presented to CCP. Big smile

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#152 - 2012-05-02 01:50:40 UTC
Not a bad idea. I think I might do just that.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#153 - 2012-05-03 16:09:53 UTC
Still taking suggestions.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#154 - 2012-05-03 20:57:56 UTC
In light of all of the support and suggestions received on this proposal, I have taken the time to forward the link to this proposal, as well as a personal message to the CSM requesting that they take a look at it.

Thank you for all of your support, suggestions, bitches, gripes and complaints regarding this proposal. I will keep all supporters of this proposal posted as to any feedback I receive.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#155 - 2012-05-07 23:17:05 UTC
Still accepting input and suggestions.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-05-08 02:45:11 UTC  |  Edited by: fantazmythe
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Michael Loney wrote:
Great Idea! I too am moving my mission running around and the shuttle leap-frog back and forth is tedious to say the least.

Small improvement / suggestion?

Add a new option called 'secure for travel' , similar to repackaging but just secures the ship for travel in a Envoy-class ship hold. This would require a component to used like a framework for each class / size of ship. They would be simple T1 gear that can be made anywhere but would add some cost to the whole operation and would be sold and traded. Each Envoy-class would have a separate bay for holding collapsed frames. Even make them take damage per usage so you need to either keep stock or a blueprint handy to make more. Maybe a T2 variant with a password lock so you can secure a rigged ship, password it then contract it for travel but keep it password locked so the chance of theft goes down.

Options:
- A frame locked ship cannot be entered with a pod so even if the ship pops out on destruction it cannot be boarded. This also opens the options for trading / swapping rigged ships in space. Still need a station / POS to get into it but can be dropped in space and unless someone has another Envoy-class they can't pick up the ships.

- A T2 frame locked ship will only reveal what class of ship is inside, no other details.

Just my 2 cents.


Excellent suggestions! Thank you so much.


this is an excellent idea indeed, makes it a tad tedius but also makes it not completely easy.

also there is one other thing ppl havn't thought of, having a new ship like this would help mineral prices (yes that means making them higher) by the fact that a LOT of mins would be needed to make these ships =)
and as someone who mines for his pvp funds AND moves ships arround for said pvp i FULLY support this idea

+1 for me
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#157 - 2012-05-08 16:55:20 UTC
Deckington Forgecaster wrote:
Why haven't we got this yet?


I can only assume it has something to do with the carebears drowning out all good ideas with their incessant screaming, whining and crying that they should be absolutely safe from gankers in high sec, and Hulkageddon.

Short of that, I would assume it's because we haven't raised enough support for the idea.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-05-09 01:04:59 UTC  |  Edited by: fantazmythe
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Deckington Forgecaster wrote:
Why haven't we got this yet?


I can only assume it has something to do with the carebears drowning out all good ideas with their incessant screaming, whining and crying that they should be absolutely safe from gankers in high sec, and Hulkageddon.



I think you hit the nail on the head with that one jack.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#159 - 2012-05-09 02:53:02 UTC
Unfortunately the worthless carebears that want ISK just for the sake of having ISK, because there is no real purpose to them having it (as they'll never need to replace PvP ships), are the ones ****ing things up for the rest of us.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-05-10 14:56:01 UTC
yup =(