EVE General Discussion

You girls do realize the irony of this thread during Hulkageddon I hope.

Now, about that Laser Banana......

It's not ironic. It's topical. I suggest you learn the meaning of words before bandying them about.

I started Eve (with a different Char) in June 2003 a month after release.

There were 4 ship types. Frigate, Cruiser, Battleship, Industrial.

In the beginning, as has been suggested, most people mined. We got in our frigates, warped to belt, mined, warped back to station. Rinse and repeat until I could afford a cruiser and an industrial.

I used to wake up in the morning, set my indy off into a belt and leave it afk mining with one T1 mining laser and then go to school. Coming back to a cargo load of veld was awesome! 50k-100k was so much isk! The asteriods were massive and you didnt get suicide ganked.

Eventually I joined a corp and we all mined together in our cruisers and with dedicated haulers. We pooled our money and got me into an Apoc which was the best mining ship there was (7 Meta 4 mining lasers!). I then helped to make enough for the next battleship and we carried on until everyone got a battleship, obviously the process sped up as we went. Looking back it was some of the best fun I had, shooting the breeze with my fellow corp mates while watching mining lasers and drones (Harvesters) work away while we planned our dominance of the Eve world.

One of the biggest things to change in relation to mining is hauling and storage.

I joined Hegemonic Core (HC) in the XETIC alliance a while later. We operated in the Immensea area and mining operations of 0.0 began. The methods didn't change, the hauling did. Mining groups would go out and find the coveted Ark roids. Haulers would pick up the ore and haul it to 'depots'. These depots consisited of numerous giant containers floating in space. Some areas had 3 or 4 depots on route and the ore passed between each stage eventually making it back to empire.

This was before stations in 0.0. It was a long way to travel.

Miners were paid a percentage for mining and each hauler was paid depending on the stage and volume they hauled. Miners tracked how much they mined to get paid, and this allowed the management to keep an eye on the goods to make sure thefts were not occuring. I have no idea how people kept track of the payments but it worked very well.

That hauling allowed me to become one of the very first few people to own two battleships. Apoc and Tempest. I was rich! I quit Eve for 18 months just after that. I guess the mining had taken its toll!

Hauling now days is a piece of cake in comparison to those early days.

Logistics changed the mining game more than mining has ever changed.

I always wanted to get some of that in writing, glad I finally have.

Many Vets will remember the Miner II fiasco, when a few bpo's were prematurely seeded. Together with Harvester drones, they were the biziness before mining barges were introduced.

The oldest vets will remember the days before battleships were rolled out (or at least before anyone could afford one). Thorax was the 'must have' mining ship then!

I remember the first time when a belt was wiped out by a corp before it could re-spawn. If my memory serves me right, it was a big event arranged by BSC in Tew system a few weeks after the game was launched and most players involved were mining in frigates fitted with miner 1's.

We were easily pleased back then!

/emote: rolls over and goes back to sleep.

"I used to be a miner, but I took a Tornado to my Hulk"

Stupid Gallente pilots and their stupid Thoraxes and Iterons... I just *had* to go Caldari so I ended up quite jealous of my friends' ability to mine up ammo and such whenever they needed it while I made do with a whopping 3 lasers (although those lucky SOBs who made it into a scorpion got *4* lasers).

Then of course there were 0.0 mining ops before you could even anchor a bunch of cans. And "hunting passes." And all the early CONCORD-related shenanigans... ahh, those were the days, when you REALLY never knew what was about to happen.

At least now, it's pretty easy to predict if you are or are not about to die horribly when someone warps into the belt you're mining (answer: are they in a barge or something else).

Battleship mining was always an option but it was laughed at by the general community. You got the typical "fail" comments when you put a geddon or a Rohk fit for mining together.

I am still seeing concerted avoidance from the GD propaganda team when you talk about solid T2 deep core, Rohk fits. They have over 70K EHP and outmine anything but a Hulk so I can see why the griefer crew wouldn't want them to become popular.

Rokh CPU allows for mining better than other ships.
Hyperion is next on the list.