Market Discussions

You guys with large mineral stacks should start to panic right now.

What we see here is EVE most famous meme the butterfly effect. As long as the mineral prices are so high a lot of occasionally mining happens from people who usually don't mine, it's simple as that and with that occasionally mining a lot more minerals are flooded into the market. It's all about numbers even if those occasionally miners mine only for 1h per day, if enough do that ... you get the twist.
Just check the daily volume of Trit from the last 2 weeks and compare that to any 2 weeks 4months ago. Right now this is not fool proof as we still have some large stockpiles and dumping going on but give it another month or 2. The difference in volume will be marginally as long as the price stay at this level.

I could be dead wrong but the only other option is CCP doesn't catch enough mining bots every week. At the end of the day all that matters is how many mining bots are killed every week. Assuming we still have a very high level of mining bots and if CCP is able to get them to a very low level in the near future mineral prices will rise to a whole new level and then the masses of real players will kick in even more.

Again it is very simple if mineral prices stay at this high level a lot of players will just mine for 1h or 2h to get enough stuff to build whatever they want even if mining will still be inferior to other proffession ISK/h wise. Mining will be the new minigame while you are on a roam, shooting structures, CTA etc. etc.

I never doubted a new equilibrium, there will be one for sure. The major factors will be CCPs success/failure in bot hunting and the price level of minerals. High level prices will cause many many players to use mining as a "passive" task in between.
Mining is boring as hell and personally i would never do that but here is the thing you can mine while you do others things. You don't have to pay attention, yes you won't be efficient, you will miss cycles etc but that does not matter as you do it as 2nd task. To get into low level "passive" mining you need about 2weeks skilltime (not talking about Hulk).

Talk to some older players like 4 to 5 years old ones and ask them how it was back then, i bet about 50% had a 2nd char with mining as profession doing that awful boring mining as 2nd task while doing the fun thing as main. Factor in that it is easy as hell to produce T1 Ships/Stuff, the BPC are cheap the skill level to make them low. A lot more players will just start to produce their own stuff bypassing the market and they won't care that it won't be ISK/h efficient as "passive" mined mins are free. In this case i mean literally free as you do it as 2nd task.

I can hear a lot of MD screaming now mins are not free, they aren't if you are doing it as main task but as 2nd task i label them as free.

http://i.imgur.com/3RvXg.png

tell me again, oh late 2009 player, how things were back in "the old days"

everyone lied to you minerals are worthless dump them all

You should know it better ;) but in mine case you are correct but that doesn't mean i don't know 4 to 5 year old ones pre Drone poo times.


Anyway i know

that but that doesn't mean the average highsec carebear does and will calculate the ISK effiency nor he will argue that mins are free if you mine them on a 2nd account while you do blob warfare/whatever.

You shouldn't underestimate the carebear heart, there are awfully lot of players who started a prodder char just to build the ships they use. We will see in 2 month if and how the volume of minerals changed in Jita that is the only hard data players will get.

Right the "good" stuff but you know too that mining in 0.0 is much safer than highsec. I guess Goons and any other 0.0 ally already searched for the good more or less dead end mining systems and installed a cyno jammer, set up bubbles and brought in a Rorqual.

What would be amazing if you can setup a cartel like OTEC for high end mins. Endless piles of ISK :)

Cores is this an alt of yours and you are just playing silly buggers or is this guy really that clueless?

Now i'm offended...... i thought we are all good friends here :P

you're too stupid to be my friend =< maybe a lemming

Matter not it does.

0.0 and hi will be more and more seperated. The shortages will impact hi mostly as alliances can basically order their minions to do whatever they want.