EVE General Discussion

I could be wrong, but I don't think that will be coming in Inferno. It will involve a huge amount of work and probably some new hulls to be added (destroyers) at the same time... they said they would do frigate/destroyer and possibly cruiser first (I think).

It's still hardly Tiericide anyway. So long as you have one ship that is better than the other in each category, there will be tiers.

Either way I still don't understand the logic behind complaining about stuff that is happening for free. I have still yet to see CCP charge anybody for an expansion.

O how long WoT been around let me check...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0y2wmE4lMo

1 year... let's see the stats (lol)

And for the past year, the army of tankmen has grown to 24 million registered users, who took part in way over 350 million battles, fired 75 billion shots with 48 billion hits, destroying almost 8 billion armored vehicles.



24million accounts LOL... okay.

So age what again?

9 years of eve... still tons of bugs...

WoT the largest complaint is MM... funny coming from eve players...

Eve is bugs... crashing... can't jump, other BS people call not bugs... if I press jump... why does the thing not jump, not move... just sits? maybe the button should be removed then...

WoT is blah I can't see a tank who has camo
Everything in this match is bigger than me...

HUGE bugs guys HUGE lol.


Just waiting to see if they really put pysics in the game... if so ROFL eve just needs to give up already...

The new wardec system is broken from the start... LOL...

HUGE alliance can attack anyone... they have the isk and the cost is NOTHING anyways lol

Small guy who maybe wants to do what he can... hit and run things... ya NEVER GONA HAPPEN.

Goons vs a 100man alliance will be like what 50mill?
100man vs goons would be what? 1billion or something?

Ya war dec system is fixed...

O and you cant shed the dec so... when a huge alliance or just a much larger one attacks... your ******... might as well just quit...

And good luck getting back at them if they drop the dec... you can't afford to dec...

Seems fixed to me.

I gotta admit I was a bit underwhelmed seeing the features list, but I guess that's to be expected with a pvp focused expansion as a pve focused player. Reminds me of Dominion. Ah well, there's new modules atleast.

I think I'd be happier if (pricing aside for the moment) they based the War Dec system on size above all else (in before the size doesnt' matter jokes).

In othe words, a corp (of sufficient size) could declare war on an alliance (of similar size), or corp vs. corp, or alliance vs. alliance. The only thing that determines a valid potential war target would be the number of members. The only other restriction would be you can not declare a war as a corp if you are a member of an alliance.

Divisions could be:

25 or less members.
26 - 100 members.
101 - 500 members.
501 - 1000 members.
+1000 members.

So a corp of 100 members has a fairly narrow range of corps or alliances they could declare war on. The could not declare war on an corp or alliance with over 100 members, or with 26 or less members. Any corp or alliance with between 26 and 100 members when war is declared would be fair game.

An alliance of 500 members could wage war (as an alliance) on a range of similarly sized corps or alliances... between 101 and 500 members total.

A corp that was a member of an alliance could not declare a (private) war only involving their corp unless they leave said alliance. If they join (or rejoin) an alliance with a war dec in effect, if they declared the war the alliance would not automatcially be a part of it, if the had war declared upon them the alliance would be involved.

This would solve the issue of large corps bullying small corps, as well as the issue of small corps unrealistically being able to declare war on large entities.

Price points could then be based on this system and be uniform within each slot.

Ah well.

Compare Crucible 1.0 to Crucible 1.5. Inferno's release is merely the start.

My reason for asking is that I would I had a good idea how long WoT has been out on the market. It's in a different stage of it's life cycle to EVE, there will be lots of expansions for such a game, which, as Ranger1 pointed out, is more of an online arcade shooter. It's good business sense to provide more content in expansions like you mentioned to keep people playing and bring in more subs.

You sound like one of those who were caught botting by Sreegs and co and you're just butthurt. You aren't making reasoned argument against the game, you just sound like a 12 year old that had their ice cream taken away.

Now that I think about it, and even more elegant solution would be to charge a standard base fee for a war and then have an additional cost based on the DIFFERENCE (higher or lower) in member population.

So if (pulling numbers out of my butt) the standard war dec fee is 100m, and the charge is 1m per difference in members (whether plus or minus) you get 100m + (1m x difference) = Total War Dec fee for one week.

Corp A with 100 members decs Corp B with 10 members (or vice versa).
100m + 90m = 190M per week.

Corp A with 100 members decs Alliance C with 3000 members (or vice versa).
100m + 2billion 900m = 3billion per week.

If Alliance C with 3000 members dec alliance D with 3000 members.
100m per week.

Simple and sweet, solves both issues.

It discourages little guys from being either picked on or preying on larger entities.
It encourages wars between similar sized opponents.

The only thing i really have noticed with Inferno is different GUI sounds, icons to show status above the HUD, the terrible location of the percentages of shield/armor/structure, and the update or two EVERY DAY.

Maybe CCP should test these updates more before releasing? I am sick of updating, especially when I have limited Internet.

EDIT: Oh yeah, almost forgot, torpedo miss animations.

But then my 5-man empire alt wardec corp can't dec Goons for 50M a week so CCP are owned by mittens whargle garble