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I have to say there is somethig extremely 'dodgy' happening to eve, ccp AND Goons/

I mean another example the war dec system, goons will now be practically impossible to wardec.
CCP are blantantly allowing one alliance to control eve, why is that? this is why eve in 5 years will be dead
Goons control everything and i mean everything, and with that they just get bigger and bigger, and attractivng all the new players cos of this and still scamming them as well.. They have nearly all the tech moons etc, there is something seriously wrong with all this.. seriously wrong

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I would like to point out (and thank you for your responses so far good and bad) that thius isnt just about the war dec changes, i mean i hear it would cost around 7 bill to war dec goons...!!! i mean seriously... the only people who would want to spend that is a 0.0 alliance ( who would do it for free anyway as its 0.0)

However the whole concept about goons and ccp and eve worries me, may be i should explain myself better.

Overall size of goons is just enormous, should we really be allowing alliances to be this big? Not just goons but anyone.
The also take all the new players, I mean wiht an 8000 player base, riches of 0.0, and ultimate protection why wouldnt you go to goons? I mean i dont agree with their new player scamming but people are obviously not put off by it. In fact the alliance that is notorious for scamming just seems to bet bigger and bigger and more and more powerful.

Tech moons - bascially a ton load of the entire eve supply of tech moons belong to goonswarm, every location of every moon in eve is now known, and taken up, is this really right? its not in all seriousness. No one WILL EVER be able to take these, and lets be serious gentlemen without the get an alliance an take it BS response. Even uber pvp alliances like evoke, NC. have failed in doing this. I mean its the same as the russian alliances like Solar too being far too powerful. But goons are a very special case in eve, and seem to get alot of support from CCP. (devs in goons perhaps?)

There are of course other elements, but this is just some.
Goons are able to single handedly control everybodys game whenever they feel like it. Is it really right that one alliance can pretty much control and own eve? Becuase this is where its at guys, try to bury your head in the sand if you want but its a plain and simple fact and eve is becoming saturated. This is one reason why other mmos have multiple instances so that no one group can control and entire game, or the game of other players too. And this is where eve has got to.

Can you honestly believe and say this is right for the game? its not it really isnt, its very very wrong and eve is going down a black hole if nothing seriously changes.

Goons control everything, they control my game and your game and EVE, and that to me sends alarm bells and cannot be good for the game.

There's only one thing wrong with your post:

The facts.

Do you truely think mass-recruiting should be forbidden ?

If so, please uninstall the game.

You're absolutely right. We've let in thousands of people who simply pay the recruitment fee.

I'd like to see the CSM weigh in on bigfoot and alien abductions while they're at it.

It was suggested in the forums and I've brought it to CCP that no only should the size of the target be part of the cost but the difference in the size of the organizations needs to be figured in.

Big groups dec-ing little guys should be very expensive.

Little groups dec-ing big groups should be pretty cheap.

There was some interest from CCP in this idea but I expect as close to "out the door" as Inferno is refinements like this may have to come post patch.

I encourage everyone concerned about the new war dec costs to continue to be active in the forums!

You can be sure the CSM 7 is also actively discussing this with CCP as well.

Issler

Curse those goons for recruiting new players, supporting them and training to fight! This kind of blasphemous deviltry has no place in EVE!

0.0 should belong only to players who were born with 50M SP and 2 years of PvP experience.



I propose that 0.0 alliances recruiting, training and supporting new players be called what it is: EXPLOITING

I wonder what costs she has in mind for a larger alliance that wants to wardec a smaller one, say one with 226 members or so.

So the fewer targets you're buying the right to shoot at, the more it should cost?

humm the word sandbox springs to mind.

To be perfectly honest if the mechanics of the game allow large numbers of people to group together e.g a MMO or whatever psu you wish to use then this was always going to happen.

Obviously GSF have a good recruitment program otherwise they wouldn't keep the amount of people they do, barring mental issues obviously. Although I'm on the opposite side of the coin to GSF why should CCP alter the game mehanics because one group seem to be doing a better/different job than the rest?


I do believe they get a certain amount of leeway from CCP regarding certain things but as I have no actual proof of this it's more a feeling than anything else. Again the same can be leveled at old BOB during the T2 BPO debacle.

The thing with good shepards is they attract alot of sheep, I wouldn't blame GSF leadership at all in this as they are doing what they need to do in order to achieve certains aims, if anything blame the sheep that follow them who don't seem to have the balls to strike out on their own instead they "seem" to take the path of least resistance.

Then again aren't we all sheep to some degree!