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Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-05-07 23:18:24 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
I am certain we all know a player or two that has quit after CCP made this sort of change. Yes the impact may mean nothing to you but it was enough of a change to be unpalatable to the person who quit. I think EVE would be much bigger if more attention and consideration was made on the changes that CCP implements.

Imagine if it was you who dreamed of flying a titan as it was and you trained a toon to have Titan V. How let down would you feel if CCP burst your bubble?


If CCP removed Titans I'm sure they would also remove the titan skill and reimburse the skill points. As it stands, you can still list your faction loot on contracts, so nothing has been lost. The only thing that has happened is features have been added.

Also, this.


You are missing the point. Yes you can still fly a "Titan" but it isn't the same "Titan" that you set out to fly.


Is it still a Titan? Is it still the same DoomsDaying, Jump Portal Generating, 100 billion isk Loot Pinata that it always was?


If you are going to be purposefully narrow minded then you might want to find another thread to post in since you aren't making any valid points in this one.
Whitehound
#62 - 2012-05-07 23:18:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Lapine Davion wrote:
Haha, what. We got those SP refunded because they removed the Learning Skills. Why else would we have gotten them?

"Haha what," exactly. You are dumb as a tree. The questions is why would you need these SPs or why would you deserve them when nothing of your game has changed?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Dessau
The Scope
#63 - 2012-05-07 23:19:49 UTC
Can't tell if gay princess of a mafia, or princess of a gay mafia.
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-05-07 23:20:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
I am telling you that the game has changed for me because of what they did.
…and I'm telling you that no mechanics have changed that in any way would warrant a refund of SP. You can still use the skills the exact same way they were always used. You've chosen not to use them like that any more for various reasons. You've chosen not to investigate what else you can use those skills for. In other words, you have chosen to make your SP worthless. This is your choice and no-one else's. Stop blaming others for your own choices.

Quote:
Please don't tell me how to feel or tell me what I should be perceiving.
Since it is quite obvious that you could use a pair of glasses to clear up the perception problems you're having, I think I will.

Whitehound wrote:
Why did you get SPs for the removal of the learning skills?
Because they represented training time spent on a mechanic that was removed from the game.


Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy. My mistake. I really wish that goon alts wore badges sometimes. Ugh
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#65 - 2012-05-07 23:20:25 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[Was the contracting system removed? Is the OP no longer able to make contracts? Are those people who bought titans still able to fly titans? The ships themselves haven't been removed have they? Then you don't get any SP refunded. Because you are dumb.

No, you are dumb. Why did you get SPs for the removal of the learning skills? You do not know. You just sucked it up and said "thank you".

There was no need to give any of us SPs for them. Training speed has simply not changed and I had them all at 5.


Haha, what. We got those SP refunded because they removed the Learning Skills. Why else would we have gotten them?


You got them back because CCP foresaw a potentially large customer service issue. Basically there was going to be massive QQ so they preempted it all. All I am asking is for the same courtesy for my relatively minor issue.


Your issue is a hugely minor issue that literally no one else gives enough fucks about to whine on the forums.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#66 - 2012-05-07 23:20:59 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
I am telling you that the game has changed for me because of what they did.
…and I'm telling you that no mechanics have changed that in any way would warrant a refund of SP. You can still use the skills the exact same way they were always used. You've chosen not to use them like that any more for various reasons. You've chosen not to investigate what else you can use those skills for. In other words, you have chosen to make your SP worthless. This is your choice and no-one else's. Stop blaming others for your own choices.

Quote:
Please don't tell me how to feel or tell me what I should be perceiving.
Since it is quite obvious that you could use a pair of glasses to clear up the perception problems you're having, I think I will.

Whitehound wrote:
Why did you get SPs for the removal of the learning skills?
Because they represented training time spent on a mechanic that was removed from the game.


Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy. My mistake. I really wish that goon alts wore badges sometimes. Ugh


I like your terrible opinion that Goons aren't allowed to have opinions.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-05-07 23:21:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
they represented training time spent on a mechanic that was removed from the game.


Did I ever tell you about that 'training time' I spent with that mechanic ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#68 - 2012-05-07 23:22:25 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Haha, what. We got those SP refunded because they removed the Learning Skills. Why else would we have gotten them?

"Haha what," exactly. You are dumb as a tree. The questions is why would you need these SPs or why would you deserve them when nothing of your game has changed?


Why would the OP need her SP refunded when her game literally hasn't changed and she still has all the same functionality that she had before?

The only thing I can think of is that she was trying to contract scam with those Faction Mods.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#69 - 2012-05-07 23:22:47 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I thought when you spent lots of resources in something there was always the risk of that something getting changed.



I do not understand at all why more people don't complain about htis sort of thing. Titans are a good example you spend good isk and more importantly time to just have CCP nerf what ever you do. If they are going to institute major changes then players should be given the option of having the sp returned. Fair is fair.

As an aside, very poor customer service in having to be told to offer this in the first place.


Titans were an example when isk was overpowering the numbers and skills which shouldn't have been allowed.
Whitehound
#70 - 2012-05-07 23:23:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
CCP reimbursed us with SPs after they had removed the learning skills.
…because it represented training time lost to functionality that was no longer in the game.

Nonsense. You could have easily lived without these SPs. Are you not able to harden up? Do you need SPs reimbursed or else you do you start crying? Tell me, why do you deserve SPs and others do not? You cannot tell me, because you are just a sucker to all of CCP's decisions.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#71 - 2012-05-07 23:23:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy.
No, I'm one of the people telling you that you're complaining about a problem that doesn't exist.

Nothing has changed, nothing has been removed, thus there is no reason for you to get any SP back. There is plenty of reason to have a closer look at those skills and consider what you can do with them, though…

Whitehound wrote:
Nonsense. You could have easily lived without these SPs.
So what? It's still time invested into a mechanic that was removed, which is a pretty good reason for reimbursement.

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Tell me, why do you deserve SPs and others do not?
Ehm… what? Everyone did, so everyone got them.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-05-07 23:23:59 UTC
Dessau wrote:
Can't tell if gay princess of a mafia, or princess of a gay mafia.


Princess part is settled. I'll ALWAYS be Queen.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-05-07 23:24:46 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Haha, what. We got those SP refunded because they removed the Learning Skills. Why else would we have gotten them?

"Haha what," exactly. You are dumb as a tree. The questions is why would you need these SPs or why would you deserve them when nothing of your game has changed?


Why would the OP need her SP refunded when her game literally hasn't changed and she still has all the same functionality that she had before?

The only thing I can think of is that she was trying to contract scam with those Faction Mods.


Scam or no scam does it make a difference? No. CCP is a company. I am a customer. If you are in any business you try to keep your customers happy. All I am asking for is consideration given the recent changes.
NosceTeIpsum
Intersolar Dynamics
#74 - 2012-05-07 23:26:16 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
I do not understand at all why more people don't complain about htis sort of thing.
Because there is nothing to complain about.

Quote:
Titans are a good example you spend good isk and more importantly time to just have CCP nerf what ever you do.
Yes, that happens when things are not working properly.

Quote:
If they are going to institute major changes then players should be given the option of having the sp returned.
And when major changes are instituted, they do. Making Titans more reasonable and improving the market do not constitute major changes.

Quote:
As an aside, very poor customer service in having to be told to offer this in the first place.
No, just very poor customers.


^^^^^^^^^ This
Fail Troll is fail

And maybe you should fly a titan with another 100 of them to understand WHY they were nerfed. But hey, ignorance is bliss to some.
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-05-07 23:26:16 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy.
No, I'm one of the people telling you that you're complaining about a problem that doesn't exist.

Nothing has changed, nothing has been removed, thus there is no reason for you to get any SP back. There is plenty of reason to have a closer look at those skills and consider what you can do with them, though…


You are bullying and belittling. If you have no function within CCP then telling any of THEIR customers that their problem is invalid isn't really helping the situation.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#76 - 2012-05-07 23:26:48 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
CCP reimbursed us with SPs after they had removed the learning skills.
…because it represented training time lost to functionality that was no longer in the game.

Nonsense. You could have easily lived without these SPs. Are you not able to harden up? Do you need SPs reimbursed or else you do you start crying? Tell me, why do you deserve SPs and others do not? You cannot tell me, because you are just a sucker to all of CCP's decisions.


Did Tippia whine when the learning skills were removed? I'll bet the answer is "I don't know." or "It doesn't matter."

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#77 - 2012-05-07 23:27:37 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy.
No, I'm one of the people telling you that you're complaining about a problem that doesn't exist.

Nothing has changed, nothing has been removed, thus there is no reason for you to get any SP back. There is plenty of reason to have a closer look at those skills and consider what you can do with them, though…


You are bullying and belittling. If you have no function within CCP then telling any of THEIR customers that their problem is invalid isn't really helping the situation.


Your problem is valid, unfortunately, your problem is also really, really inane.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
NosceTeIpsum
Intersolar Dynamics
#78 - 2012-05-07 23:28:10 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Sorry my mistake, you must be one of the goon/devs who decide CCP policy.
No, I'm one of the people telling you that you're complaining about a problem that doesn't exist.

Nothing has changed, nothing has been removed, thus there is no reason for you to get any SP back. There is plenty of reason to have a closer look at those skills and consider what you can do with them, though…


You are bullying and belittling. If you have no function within CCP then telling any of THEIR customers that their problem is invalid isn't really helping the situation.


Tier 3 BCs..... graphic changes.... UI ******* changes.... Did I miss anything else that "the customers" have suggested and had incorperated????
Whitehound
#79 - 2012-05-07 23:28:41 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Why would the OP need her SP refunded when her game literally hasn't changed and she still has all the same functionality that she had before?

The only thing I can think of is that she was trying to contract scam with those Faction Mods.

Because for the same reasons why we got SPs for the removal of the learning skills - those who invested time into these skills hated the change. If CCP had not given us SPs then people would have been whining all over the forum about it.

You are nothing but selfish when you deny others their claim for SP reimbursement when a game change makes earlier skill decisions redundant.

It is also not your job to decide if someone deserve it it or not. It is CCP's job. And no amount of crap posts will change it either. So you can just shut up.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Whitehound
#80 - 2012-05-07 23:29:34 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Did Tippia whine when the learning skills were removed? I'll bet the answer is "I don't know." or "It doesn't matter."

Ask her. Why do you ask me, stupid?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.