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Move All Manufacturing to Lo/Null
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-07 21:08:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.


Goon alt

and mining and missioning and etc etc etc and JUST TO **** off ppl like you, We'd STAY in high sec.

And still not give a ****.

Greyscale Dash wrote:
Tillin Sylph wrote:
Goon alt spotted.


You wish.

No trolls please.


the fact that your post IS a troll kills your argument here, little bee alt

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-05-07 21:11:01 UTC
Indeterminacy wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
...so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?


I heard CCP are thinking about adding something to address this. And I heard they are called war decs. Also, there's always the risk of getting your raw materials and finished product suicided.

Ban OP for [bad] trolling.



or just play the market and never undock. all profit no risk woo

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Ogopogo Mu
O C C U P Y
#23 - 2012-05-07 21:12:32 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
No trolls please.


OP petition sent.
Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-05-07 21:16:36 UTC
hmm

risk in camping the manufacturing queue in high sec...

time is money
wasted time manufacturing something that ((may)) or ((may not)) hold its value when it's finally done in the public high sec queues...
for some people "risk" is deciding what to make, what to sell, and take your losses or not. Industry isn't for cowards imo. Ships aren't the only thing lost in this game. I see industry as literally putting your money where your mouth is.
Indeterminacy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-05-07 21:18:54 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Indeterminacy wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
...so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?


I heard CCP are thinking about adding something to address this. And I heard they are called war decs. Also, there's always the risk of getting your raw materials and finished product suicided.

Ban OP for [bad] trolling.



or just play the market and never undock. all profit no risk woo


because people don't do this in lowsec/nullsec?
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-05-07 21:19:51 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.



Where is the risk? lol

How about spending a billion isk on materials to build suff only to see that

a. The market crashes and you have to sell at a loss
b. Market PvP
b. No one buys your ****

There is a TON of risk in manufacturing/Marketeering. A TON.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-05-07 21:21:52 UTC
Indeterminacy wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Indeterminacy wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
...so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?


I heard CCP are thinking about adding something to address this. And I heard they are called war decs. Also, there's always the risk of getting your raw materials and finished product suicided.

Ban OP for [bad] trolling.



or just play the market and never undock. all profit no risk woo


because people don't do this in lowsec/nullsec?


no... thats just the funny moneywrench to the "risk/reward" bullshit when most of the richest ppl in EVE are market players?

Yeah thats some mighty risky sittin youre doin there. In that station

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Ercy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-05-07 21:22:15 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.


They are bots. Would you like to know who is running those bots? CCP is. It's part of the game. Pick a manufacturing or research line that you want to use (hopefully, not too long before the current production is finished) and when you try to run the job, you get a dialog saying the line is busy and do you want to add your job to the end of the queue. Click "yes" and there you go.... you have your bot working for you!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#29 - 2012-05-07 21:27:22 UTC
A shortage of manufacturing slots IS the risk. In Eve, risk is anything that costs you ISK, or makes making ISK more time consuming.

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Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#30 - 2012-05-07 21:33:41 UTC
Learn to queue a job instad of QQ-ing.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#31 - 2012-05-07 21:38:32 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.


Do you see the irony in your post? Probably not. Stop whining about the way high sec dwellers live and focus on playing the game how you want to play it., rather than expecting everyone else to be just like you. It's a sandbox remember?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-05-07 21:45:47 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.



Where is the risk? lol

How about spending a billion isk on materials to build suff only to see that

a. The market crashes and you have to sell at a loss
b. Market PvP
b. No one buys your ****

There is a TON of risk in manufacturing/Marketeering. A TON.


This. Manufacturing is pure PvP.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-05-07 21:47:55 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Learn to queue a job instad of QQ-ing.



Or yet WHERE to. My main is in a station where none of the slots are ever filled lol

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-05-07 21:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:

Goon alt

and mining and missioning and etc etc etc and JUST TO **** off ppl like you, We'd STAY in high sec.

And still not give a ****.


Woah! Careful folks, we got a high-sec baddass here.

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#35 - 2012-05-07 21:51:02 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Tillin Sylph wrote:
Goon alt spotted.


You wish.

No trolls please.


Says the prat who uses a Dev's name in their forum-alt character--you do know, that's against the EULA, right?

Ban incoming, methinks, and good riddance.

Ni.
sneekyninja
The High and Mighty
#36 - 2012-05-07 21:58:33 UTC
How to factory pvp:
1)Find a station that's obviously being used by one guy and an army of alts (Lots of jobs installed at the same time)
2)Use your army of alts to install a ton of jobs, make sure they complete at different times as to interdict their ability to install everything at the same time
3a)Drop the manufacturer an eve mail, demand a reasonably priced ransom for factory slots
3b)Hope he doesn't pay but instead moves his blueprints in an easy to gank hauler
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-05-07 22:56:04 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.



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Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-05-07 23:02:00 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.


Every part of this games *needs* a safe way to get your feet wet.
hank boar
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-05-07 23:09:55 UTC
sneekyninja wrote:
How to factory pvp:
1)Find a station that's obviously being used by one guy and an army of alts (Lots of jobs installed at the same time)
2)Use your army of alts to install a ton of jobs, make sure they complete at different times as to interdict their ability to install everything at the same time
3a)Drop the manufacturer an eve mail, demand a reasonably priced ransom for factory slots
3b)Hope he doesn't pay but instead moves his blueprints in an easy to gank hauler



your so eble lol ^ - ^
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#40 - 2012-05-08 00:18:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Moving manufacturing to null wouldn't work. Primarily because player outposts have so little manufacturing slots in comparison to those in high sec that it wouldn't be able to keep up. Not to mention the terrible blanket corp roles when it comes to POSs and manufacturing that creates a liability when you are in a large corporation. Lowsec could work but still not worth it. Until CCP changes corp roles from being blanket roles, and multiplies outpost production slots, manufacturing in null will never be as good as highsec. Also giving buffs to Adv assembly arrays that are located in null might help a bit, or just remove the increased material multiplier. Removing it from highsec is just the lazy fix to a greater problem

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