Ships & Modules

Could I get some Astarte fits? I'm not quite sure how I want to fit this thing, considering the range even with Null loaded. Thanks!

Smaller gangs, 5-10 pilots roaming low/null.

[Astarte, active blasters neutrons]

7x Heavy Neutron Blaster II (Null M)

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I (Cap Booster 800)
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Warp Disruptor II

2x Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer
Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

5x Valkyrie II



was thinking of changing the valkyries for warriors + ecm drones for frig defense...

You are pretty much useless at anything outside scram range and a Disruptor doesn't slow them down. I am sure that your gang has faster locking ships then the Astarte with Warp Disruptors so you might as well fit a scam so that if all other tackle goes your still holding them down. Because unless you are faster then them your Warp Disruptor is holding nothing but the view of there engine MWD'ing out of range.

I was actually messing around with my Astarte last night, trying to come up with a decent fit for small gangs. As with every other time I've messed with this ship I get incredibly irritated at the missing utility high slot. Every other CS can fit a gang link without giving up DPS. The Astarte really needs an 8th high slot.

Appreciate the fits guys, I'm probably going to use the shield fit one, for maximum DPS. I just didn't want to waste the bonus to armor rep, but 1k DPS looks very tempting.

How is that? Every other command ship still only has 7 high slots.

Please for the love of god, do not tell someone to buy a nighthawk... Ship has 2 less slots than a drake and not enough fitting to get any viable setup w/o the use of fitting mods. In conclusion, do not use a nighthawk for pvp as there are many other much better options that don't cost 300m fitted.

As for the Astarte... It's a "decent" ship if you manage to put it into the right situation against the right kind of targets however it's counters are common and the ships capabilities are easily matched or exceeded by less expensive options. The astarte like other commands excluding the sleipnir and claymore have two less slots than tier 2 BCs. 1 rig slot, and 1 normal slot, wtf is this about? Until Field commands are brought inline with tier 2 bcs and t3 cruisers you will not see them used with any kind of regularity until this 6 year old issue is addressed...

The solution to these ships is more or less two fold. First is going to be the mandatory addition of 1 slot or the mandatory removal of a slot from tier 2 bcs. There is no reason that one of the most skill intensive lines of combat related sub caps is exceeded in fitting and slots by tech 1 ships of the same general class. I also strongly believe that the tier 1 bcs these field commands are based off of should receive an additional slot as well, bringing them more in line with the blatantly overpowered tier 2s. Tier1 bcs would now have 1 less slot than tier 2s, and Field commands with have the same number in the case of astarte/eos and 1 less in the case of all other commands compared to tier 2s. This needed change still puts the advantage in slot numbers to the tier2s however will start closing that balance gap that has existed for so long.

The second less mandatory fix but still 100% needed would be a change to Command ships base hp values. If you take a second to gander at these values on command ships you will notice that their base hp is below that of the tier 1 bcs they are based off of and significantly below that of the tier 2s that were introduced after their implementation. The reason for this discrepancy is based off of a bit of eve history... As many of you remember there was a large buff to overall hp values on ships introduced many years ago to promote longer fights, this change is common knowledge... However there was another hp buff applied to the game that was only granted to BCs in favor of shrinking the performance gap between them and BSs. The second BC specific hp buff I'm talking about was never applied to the tech 2 variants for some mongaloidish reason and resulted in the discrepancy between t2 and t1 bc hp values. This lack of additional hp was obviously an oversight and most certainly needs to be addressed.... 6+ years later.....

Both Sleipnir and claymore have +1 slot compared to other CS. Has to do with the buff cyclone received years ago in the form of +1 midslot. This also means the cyclone has +1 slot compared to other tier1 bcs.

If you're blining the ship you may as well just get a tengu and bling that. It's better than the nighthawk at basically everything and requires far less time to train to.