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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#81 - 2012-05-01 18:01:18 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Asked for a replenish, top up, add stuff to orders button, see the convo over here.


Sorry, but I do not get what you are trying to suggest. Can you please add more details?


Sure, I asked CCP_karkur for a button that can add stock to your active order.

Sample case

Order X has 500k pieces of Y.
Over time it sells.
After 24hrs 300k pieces of Y are left.
I want to set it back to 500k pieces of Y.
Now I have to cancel the 300k order, compliment it with 200k stuff, put Y back on the market.
At that moment I pay extra Broker fees and Taxes for stuff that was already on the market.

Goal:

Order X has 500k pieces of Y.
Over time it sells.
After 24hrs 300k pieces are left.
You place 200k pieces of item Y within your hanger.
You hit the REPLENISH button on the order, and set the count on 500k pieces.
Then EVE takes taxes and broker fees of the additional 200k Y.
The market order is now 500k pieces of Y, again.

Hope that makes it clear.

Note: Replenishment

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#82 - 2012-05-01 18:04:10 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Asked for a replenish, top up, add stuff to orders button, see the convo over here.


Sorry, but I do not get what you are trying to suggest. Can you please add more details?


Sure, I asked CCP_karkur for a button that can add stock to your active order.

Sample case

Order X has 500k pieces of Y.
Over time it sells.
After 24hrs 300k pieces of Y are left.
I want to set it back to 500k pieces of Y.
Now I have to cancel the 300k order, compliment it with 200k stuff, put Y back on the market.
At that moment I pay extra Broker fees and Taxes for stuff that was already on the market.

Goal:

Order X has 500k pieces of Y.
Over time it sells.
After 24hrs 300k pieces are left.
You place 200k pieces of item Y within your hanger.
You hit the REPLENISH button on the order, and set the count on 500k pieces.
Then EVE takes taxes and broker fees of the additional 200k Y.
The market order is now 500k pieces of Y, again.

Hope that makes it clear.


Thanks. I like the idea. It keeps you from paying more broker fees or having a back flow of extra items when waiting for enough units to put up a second sell order.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#83 - 2012-05-01 18:24:56 UTC
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Asked for a replenish, top up, add stuff to orders button, see the convo over here.


Sorry, but I do not get what you are trying to suggest. Can you please add more details?


Stuff


Thanks. I like the idea. It keeps you from paying more broker fees or having a back flow of extra items when waiting for enough units to put up a second sell order.


Indeed, its a proven method within logistics supply chain stock management. Within EVE the best place to keep stock is on the market ;)... when a spike hits, you are there. Even when asleep, working, etc.

And since I haul a lot between regions, its really hard to double up orders everywhere, at my current market presence that would require 600 orders.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
Tri Yson
Eve Engineering Finance
#84 - 2012-05-01 22:20:46 UTC
An actual stock market.

Not sure how it would be implemented, but a bourse for corp stock would be all kinds of speculative fun.
William Joseph Adama
Einstein Rosenbruecke Logistics
#85 - 2012-05-02 08:53:58 UTC
Dear Forum,

absolutely we need a Economy Expansion. You guys already made pretty good points, especially on the stock market, monitoring and usability.
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#86 - 2012-05-02 16:47:40 UTC
Tri Yson wrote:
An actual stock market.

Not sure how it would be implemented, but a bourse for corp stock would be all kinds of speculative fun.


I already mentioned that a way back. It is in my list of requested corporation improvements. I would like to add in for it to be automated, since people have lives to live, that will make day trading possible. A few tool to calculate a corporations progress, like income, total ISK spent, and profit for week by week, will make calculating a share value more possible and less tome consuming for the CEO and directors.



If we got a stock market, CCP will need to revamp shares for the shareholders. Shares do not hold the power they actually should.


For example:

Removal of having to be a member to run for CEO, this requirement should be replaced by the requirement of not being in stasis or having roles in another corporation.

Shareholders should be able to appoint any member to CEO, CEO shouldn't have to have shares to be given CEOship, just required to run for it.

I more structured leadership like a shareholder board of directors, one for each division, and director of the first division being the Vice CEO, which Vice CEO should come with some perks and a role in the process of replacing CEO in a long absence, if there are no shareholder besides the CEO.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#87 - 2012-05-02 16:49:38 UTC
William Joseph Adama wrote:
Dear Forum,

absolutely we need a Economy Expansion. You guys already made pretty good points, especially on the stock market, monitoring and usability.


Thanks. Xaqa and I are working hard on stressing this and to get more support.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
Xaqa
Doomheim
#88 - 2012-05-02 22:22:27 UTC
Lots of good suggestions; glad to see the support.

The Cryptic Arch - Always Building
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#89 - 2012-05-03 12:55:46 UTC
Xaqa wrote:
Lots of good suggestions; glad to see the support.


Welcome back Xaqa.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#90 - 2012-05-03 13:34:09 UTC
I am adding 3 new contract type ideas to the list. I am most likely post a new list. I will have these up later today.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#91 - 2012-05-03 13:44:36 UTC  |  Edited by: PlatinumMercSEAL
Share Mechanics:
1. Shareholders should have more abilities with the shares. They should have to fight to get into a corporation to claim CEO-ship. This should be able to be done from a NPC or another player corporation. (if there is no stasis period preventing the ability to leave from a player corporation)

2. If 100% or if onside gets 51% for one option reports in the CEO should have the option to end vote early and put it into affect immediately.

Corporation:
1. A new feature to the corporate wallets to calculate income weekly and profit weekly. This will make it easier for CEOs to calculate the dividends. A total weekly costs should be add to help CEOs know how much is being spent vs. how much is being made. These features might be able to be accessible to shareholders.

2. A new in-game spreadsheet window. This will allow spreadsheets to be made in game and with the ability to share them to other players accordingly. This will allow traders and directors alike from having to switch between windows. The ability to format the spreadsheet to automatically update itself from the personal/corporate wallet (wallet, journal, transactions, bills, and some the features requested in this forum like my weekly income, expenses, and profit calculator), market prices, planetary interaction, and industry.

3. An improved corporation involved trading system. The mechanics of corporation orders taking up personal order slots just make traders in little want to trade for corporations.

4. The trader role in corporate roles needs a few limits tagged to it. It is like giving someone full access to the wallet. That would be exactly like accountant or accountant by division role. This makes them no different and even exactly the same in my perspective. The trader role need to have limits according to percent of regional average.

Xaqa requested me personally to add this. Please leave comments to help improve this list.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#92 - 2012-05-05 22:33:52 UTC
Make it possible to SHIFT click the YES or NO button when putting non empty assambled containers within a contract,

Its the way for me to label stuff that will be contracted out on a contract by an alt, but I dont want to think about setting the contracts at my ALT, just want to accept the stuff and ship it immediately. When putting the stuff in containers and then contracting them to my ALT with a label of destination on the container, I can do this. But before I can close the contract, I have to click OK, a lot!

In MS explorer and Total Commander you can confirm overwrites with such a SHIFT click for example, when doing so, all questions about this specific issue will be dealth with the same, so all non-empty containers will be allowed into the contract. Thx.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#93 - 2012-05-07 11:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
"Option to disable auto-refresh of the market order window"

This has been realized, not? its a setting within the market overview settings.

"Make it possible to adjust an order within the market window"

This one can be removed too.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#94 - 2012-05-07 16:34:55 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Make it possible to SHIFT click the YES or NO button when putting non empty assambled containers within a contract,

Its the way for me to label stuff that will be contracted out on a contract by an alt, but I dont want to think about setting the contracts at my ALT, just want to accept the stuff and ship it immediately. When putting the stuff in containers and then contracting them to my ALT with a label of destination on the container, I can do this. But before I can close the contract, I have to click OK, a lot!

In MS explorer and Total Commander you can confirm overwrites with such a SHIFT click for example, when doing so, all questions about this specific issue will be dealth with the same, so all non-empty containers will be allowed into the contract. Thx.


I see where you are coming from with this idea, but this will create harm that will out way the convenience. It will allow a larger margin of error. My idea will be is to include all of them into one window. This will allow you review all of them and only hit have to select yes once.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#95 - 2012-05-07 16:44:09 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
"Option to disable auto-refresh of the market order window"

This has been realized, not? its a setting within the market overview settings.

"Make it possible to adjust an order within the market window"

This one can be removed too.


I am more replying to the second comment. I do not see the usefulness of using the window I use as a reference for deciding the new price of the item I am modifying and then changing tabs to the order I am modifying. I prefer to keep them separate so I can see the latest data and the modifying order request at the same time. This comes in handy when actively watching a specific item, playing the bid game with other real players and bots of the lowest scums.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
William Joseph Adama
Einstein Rosenbruecke Logistics
#96 - 2012-05-09 14:06:18 UTC
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
William Joseph Adama wrote:
Dear Forum,

absolutely we need a Economy Expansion. You guys already made pretty good points, especially on the stock market, monitoring and usability.


Thanks. Xaqa and I are working hard on stressing this and to get more support.

Great, because the economy is the a core feature of EvE :-)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#97 - 2012-05-09 17:43:38 UTC
William Joseph Adama wrote:
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
William Joseph Adama wrote:
Dear Forum,

absolutely we need a Economy Expansion. You guys already made pretty good points, especially on the stock market, monitoring and usability.


Thanks. Xaqa and I are working hard on stressing this and to get more support.

Great, because the economy is the a core feature of EvE :-)


The economy is Eve Online. =D

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#98 - 2012-05-09 17:48:12 UTC
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
"Option to disable auto-refresh of the market order window"

This has been realized, not? its a setting within the market overview settings.

"Make it possible to adjust an order within the market window"

This one can be removed too.


I am more replying to the second comment. I do not see the usefulness of using the window I use as a reference for deciding the new price of the item I am modifying and then changing tabs to the order I am modifying. I prefer to keep them separate so I can see the latest data and the modifying order request at the same time. This comes in handy when actively watching a specific item, playing the bid game with other real players and bots of the lowest scums.


Never mind that. Hertog explained and it has been clarified. He meant right clicking to bring up the modify window. Ty Hertog for explaining.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#99 - 2012-05-12 06:31:13 UTC
Are we going to get more ideas?

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#100 - 2012-05-14 12:32:33 UTC
Would love to see derivative trading. It enables people to place bets on turns in market prices BOTH ways (not only up by stocking up on tritanium, which has an inflationary effect, but also down by speculating on prices going down). It would also help provide additional profit opportunities, and for some spectacular busts. I can also dream of many interesting schemes to pull off using this functionality. It should be guarded, obviously, by large amounts of collaterals insuring that the losers will stump up the cash.

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