EVE General Discussion

In light of the "Burn Jita" campaign, and the constant angst about PVE vs. PVP/ Carebear vs....uh... Killbear?.... I have (like a lot of folks) been pondering ways CCP could act in the interest of all players, while keeping the games spirit.

All it took was watching and episode of StarTrek (and playing StarTrek Online while doing so).

Before I get to the Idea however, I would like to put forth my personal opinion (that if you don't care about, feel free to skip ahead) on some of the recent mechanics of the game. First off, I'm of the mind that common sense should guide some of the changes. Ask yourself "If we had real world spaceships in a reality that spanned thousands of systems, would this (change) make sense.

Here, I imply some of the "exploits" used by PVP Pirates. Exploits like "Boomeranging" and "not letting concord kill you". Real world police don't always catch a murderer, so why is it that pirates can't do their dirty deeds in highsec, and turn tail before law enforcement show up? Space is big, and 3 dimensional. That's alot of ground...er...vacuum to cover. As you might already relize, I am against some of these "exploits" being exploits, and am against the speedy reaction time (and the disembodied warpscrambleing) of Concord Police Forces.

Now take the next real world example (for The USA at least) of helping those who are victims of a crime. I think this type of situation may already be covered in a future patch, but I want to speak my piece anyway. There was a man stabbing his wife in a Walmart (classy) near my highschool a few years back. A elderly gentlemen with a concealed firearm carry license opened fire on the man and saved the woman's life (no charges were pressed). Using this example, I support the whole "world criminal flag" of anyone being able to attack who attack an innocent.

Now, If you are skipping past my opinionated babbling, this is where my Idea begins.
From Watching (and playing) StarTrek, I thought that a distress signal, with a button located somewhere out of the way on the hud, would be a great way for making Highsec more secure, while opening up "PVP" actions in it. This will do 2 things.
1st is that it will let players so inclined warp to the distressee and assist in taking down the pirate (with the help of the global criminal flags).
2nd it will also give the ability to implement 2 concord reaction time models. Make Concord respond very slowly, or not at all, when a distress signal not hit in High sec. Make them respond quickly when it is. There are, of course, triggers that have to be met like actually being attacked, but the same triggers that get Concord response can be used for using the button.

This would mean that AFK and bot miners won't get concord help (but i don't have a clue what macros can achieve, so I'm not total sure about that). And people who are playing would not only be more secure in knowing Concord will show quickly, put also that any White Knight types in the area will come a charging.

TLDR;
Let common sense (or real world examples) drive mechanic development.
Distress Signal Button for unprovoked PVP victims. AFK and bots don't get help. Player get not only Concord assistance in highsesc but also player assistance against the aggressor.
And for the love of god get rid of the "avoiding concord is an exploit" ruling.


Please discuss. If you like the idea then pass it on to CCP. Let's bring back PVP.

The beacon would draw more gankers, but I think that makes it funny.

Sure

Stopped reading right here. It's a stupid premise to start from and usually leads to horribad ideas, that don't make sense in a game.

While I agree with the gate camps, I haven't thought up any ideas on it, so I'm sticking with something for the highsec complaints.
Also, I think giving the white knight types to warp in and save the day would be nice. It makes Highsec dangerous to low security characters and gankers for more then just Concord, and gives folks like me more chance to play hero.

I think he's trying to imply there would be "non PvP" areas where they could have their invulnerability when afk-with-hulk mining their veldspar...

For all I know the OP might be saying something really insightful and useful.. but I stopped reading at this point.

That's just mean.

Confirming that Poinen, Dodixie, Arnon, Hek and all the other highsec systems that have higher numbers of PVP losses per day than Old Man star are all so heavily camped and bubbled that you can't get in or out of them.

I was just confirming Bane Necrans assertion that all "PVP areas" are in fact impossible to get to.

I like the beacon idea ( i can see it being referred to as the bacon button )

but im not sure if eves current mechanics allow for something like this to be practical. Even when some one yells for help in corp chat , and there is a few buds a couple hops away, they are usually to late save the (victim) most the time. They get to see the fireworks and maybe just maybe if they are lucky scram the perp and pop him .

its just that things happen to fast in eve for the distress beacon to work as intended . it would become a bacon button .

but that may not be a bad thing.