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I say "to-may-toes". You say "to-mah-toes". Why do we fight?

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Serene Repose
#41 - 2012-05-06 17:44:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
I guess CCP has the right to contort EVE into a Gordian Knot of absurdity by abandoning logic and pursuing the aimless wishes of a handful of "cool kids" (in their own immaturity - regardless of age) with whom they are impressed. It may very well be CCP has reached the limits of their inventiveness and imagination. Just because you can write code and wish for something really cool doesn't mean you can design a cogent, long lasting game.

Many have tried and failed at inventing games. Many games have lasted the test of time (read: centuries). Turning EVE from a sandbox to a server full of victims for parasitic sociopaths? CCP has the right, but it's not a game, nor is it a sandbox. It may appeal to a certain element, but I can't see any future in it. My guess is, therefore, they've put all their eggs in the Sony/Playstation/Dust-bin and have forsaken EVE.

Of course, you can't get the truth from THEM, as they're a corporation (read: professional liars.)

So...you're either a ganker or a victim. Too bad. To have such potential reduced to a farcical passtime for sociopaths...well, I guess they're people, too. Maybe CCP should apply to the UN for charity status to get some credit for turning EVE into a haven for the mentally ill.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-05-06 18:42:54 UTC
oh my, will people ever realize the sandbox ?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-05-06 18:52:54 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I guess CCP has the right to contort EVE into a Gordian Knot of absurdity by abandoning logic and pursuing the aimless wishes of a handful of "cool kids" (in their own immaturity - regardless of age) with whom they are impressed. It may very well be CCP has reached the limits of their inventiveness and imagination. Just because you can write code and wish for something really cool doesn't mean you can design a cogent, long lasting game.

Many have tried and failed at inventing games. Many games have lasted the test of time (read: centuries). Turning EVE from a sandbox to a server full of victims for parasitic sociopaths? CCP has the right, but it's not a game, nor is it a sandbox. It may appeal to a certain element, but I can't see any future in it. My guess is, therefore, they've put all their eggs in the Sony/Playstation/Dust-bin and have forsaken EVE.

Of course, you can't get the truth from THEM, as they're a corporation (read: professional liars.)

So...you're either a ganker or a victim. Too bad. To have such potential reduced to a farcical passtime for sociopaths...well, I guess they're people, too. Maybe CCP should apply to the UN for charity status to get some credit for turning EVE into a haven for the mentally ill.


hahaha you're kind of hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.

Judging thousands of people and putting them all into the same pot, although you don't even know them.
And there are probably hundreds of other morons believing your crap, because they can't play and think for themselves,
not even talking about defending themselves. They just listen to a guy that keeps saying what they want to hear.


It's a game. Accept the sandbox or leave.

You're worse than THEM, spewing all out that hatred !
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#44 - 2012-05-06 18:58:39 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
I guess CCP has the right to contort EVE into a Gordian Knot of absurdity by abandoning logic and pursuing the aimless wishes of a handful of "cool kids" (in their own immaturity - regardless of age) with whom they are impressed. It may very well be CCP has reached the limits of their inventiveness and imagination. Just because you can write code and wish for something really cool doesn't mean you can design a cogent, long lasting game.

Many have tried and failed at inventing games. Many games have lasted the test of time (read: centuries). Turning EVE from a sandbox to a server full of victims for parasitic sociopaths? CCP has the right, but it's not a game, nor is it a sandbox. It may appeal to a certain element, but I can't see any future in it. My guess is, therefore, they've put all their eggs in the Sony/Playstation/Dust-bin and have forsaken EVE.

Of course, you can't get the truth from THEM, as they're a corporation (read: professional liars.)

So...you're either a ganker or a victim. Too bad. To have such potential reduced to a farcical passtime for sociopaths...well, I guess they're people, too. Maybe CCP should apply to the UN for charity status to get some credit for turning EVE into a haven for the mentally ill.


hahaha you're kind of hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.

Judging thousands of people and putting them all into the same pot, although you don't even know them.
And there are probably hundreds of other morons believing your crap, because they can't play and think for themselves,
not even talking about defending themselves. They just listen to a guy that keeps saying what they want to hear.


It's a game. Accept the sandbox or leave.

You're worse than THEM, spewing all out that hatred !


She'll just say the same thing about Goons, then compare them to N*zis.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-05-06 19:03:24 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
She'll just say the same thing about Goons, then compare them to N*zis.


Hilarious tbh, considering that she behaves like a N*zi herself.
Serene Repose
#46 - 2012-05-07 01:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Solstice Project wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
She'll just say the same thing about Goons, then compare them to N*zis.


Hilarious tbh, considering that she behaves like a N*zi herself.

Funny how some people don't know their skirts are showing. Ain't it? By the way, how would you know how I behave? Does how someone post on a forum tell you how one behaves? Where do you come by all this insight with text on a screen? I'm interested.

As far as Goons. They may be figments of your imaginations. They aren't in mine. Then, that sort of remark wouldn't be made by anyone familiar with my posts.

Nice try. No cigar. But...keep trolling...one can always hope.

PS Ever mouse over my reasons for editing posts, or are such things as that beneath you?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-05-07 01:53:38 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
hahaha you're kind of hilarious and embarrassing at the same time.
Judging thousands of people and putting them all into the same pot, although you don't even know them.
And there are probably hundreds of other morons believing your crap, because they can't play and think for themselves,
not even talking about defending themselves. They just listen to a guy that keeps saying what they want to hear.

It's a game. Accept the sandbox or leave.

You're worse than THEM, spewing all out that hatred !


Lapine Davion wrote:
She'll just say the same thing about Goons, then compare them to N*zis.

What's funny is, the OP said nothing to provoke responses like these. It's almost as though there's folks waiting for the slimmest of chances to regurgitate this sort of bilge.

Actually, this thread was thoughtful, insightful and fun...until these two additions. But, aren't they characteristic of exactly what the OP is gesturing toward. If CCP wants to pander to somebody...and this is what they choose, it says all that needs to be said about them. These two respondents? They speak for themselves, and oh so eloquently.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Ezekiel DeSangre
#48 - 2012-05-07 01:58:12 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:


So...you're either a ganker or a victim. Too bad. To have such potential reduced to a farcical passtime for sociopaths...


Hey this sounds like RL!

Meh..

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-05-07 02:14:44 UTC
Believing human beings, a species that has based it's entire existence on either becoming superior or destroying those they deem inferior will ever get along is a great way to set yourself up for failure in a world where they are the dominant species.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#50 - 2012-05-07 02:47:47 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Believing human beings, a species that has based it's entire existence on either becoming superior or destroying those they deem inferior will ever get along is a great way to set yourself up for failure in a world where they are the dominant species.

And when they become immortal capsuleers who spend their time shooting rocks, well then where would we be ~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Serene Repose
#51 - 2012-05-07 05:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Believing human beings, a species that has based it's entire existence on either becoming superior or destroying those they deem inferior will ever get along is a great way to set yourself up for failure in a world where they are the dominant species.
I've always found this view to be an interesting, but rather ill-informed and vain-glorious one. It is oblivious of the fact that all successful human endeavor was achieved through a cooperative group effort, even when it's been a competitive or aggressive action against another group. It's always defined in terms of groups. It's also a view that's oblivious to the well-established fact that humanoids are a social species (in the vein of ants and termites if you will.)

Furthermore, this sort of view obliterates the fact that all movements in the human experience deemed "forward" movements, have been in the direction of making this cooperative effort more efficient, and so more effective. In truth, it's only in recent times the myth of the unbridled individual competition was born...the interesting part is, it was hatched by people who, in this world of high-finance, winners and losers, are by definition the losers.

0 and 1.

I might add, the idea of dominating existence is fast being replaced by the idea of harmonious existence. Those who think dominating existence is possible, are fast being seen as at best delusional, and at worst, psychotic. The notion that the success of the species carries with it the success of the individual is overcoming the primitive and brutal belief in conquest. Actually, I'm surprised to see the view above quoted expressed at this day and age in a venue that obstensibly involves people whose thinking is alleged to be a tad more advanced than the average bear's. Then, it may take a while for the relics of the past to finally disappear.

Could it be EVE is a refuge for some of these...relics? Or, at least, they're trying to make it into one...?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

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