These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Missions & Complexes

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Question regarding Faction Standings gain/loss
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Mozqito
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-05-04 15:19:42 UTC
I'm trying to understand how the standings mechanics really work. Let's assume that I have +10.00 for faction A and -10.00 for Faction B. Both factions, for the sake of argument, dislike eachother completely (i.e. -10.00)

Now let's further assume that I start running missions for Faction B (the -10.00 one). Whenever I get storyline missions, Faction B's standings will go up and Faction A's go down.

At the point in time when I hit 0.00 with Faction B - have I understood it correctly that Faction A will have degraded to 5.00? Or am I completely in the shadows here?

Thanks to future posters for their advice Big smile
Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-04 20:52:03 UTC
Mozqito wrote:
I'm trying to understand how the standings mechanics really work. Let's assume that I have +10.00 for faction A and -10.00 for Faction B. Both factions, for the sake of argument, dislike eachother completely (i.e. -10.00)

Now let's further assume that I start running missions for Faction B (the -10.00 one). Whenever I get storyline missions, Faction B's standings will go up and Faction A's go down.

At the point in time when I hit 0.00 with Faction B - have I understood it correctly that Faction A will have degraded to 5.00? Or am I completely in the shadows here?

Thanks to future posters for their advice Big smile


Math the the rescue!!!!!

Example -
Faction A - Gallente Federation - Current Standing 3
Faction B - Caldari State - Current Standing -1
Your social skill is 5.

Lets assume you complete a L4 story line for Gallente that has a base standing gain of 5%.

Your Gallente standing will increase by 6.25% (modified for your social standing).
Your new Gallente standing is 3 +(10-3)*(.0625) = 3.475

Your Caldari standing will decrease by 5% modified by the derived Relationship
(see http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml). In this case -5.
Therefore your Caldari standing will decrease by 2.5%.
New caladri standing = -1 + (-10-(-1))*(.025) = -1.225
NOTE YOUR CALDRI STANDING CAN NEVER DROP BELOW -5 from running Gallente storyline missions. You have to destroy Caldri ships to get your Caldari Standing below -5 OR run missions for someone that the Caldari hate more than the Gallente.

As to your original example . . . your math is off. Set up a spreadsheet if you want to see how they flow


-FM
Mozqito
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-05-05 14:42:14 UTC
Many thanks, although it pains me to see that it will in effect be extremely hard to get good standings with most factions then Straight
Kaeoz
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-05-06 07:19:05 UTC
Can have high standing to all non pirate factions easy - look at DMC's guide.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan
Disco Knightly
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-06 15:45:13 UTC
Mozqito wrote:
Many thanks, although it pains me to see that it will in effect be extremely hard to get good standings with most factions then Straight


It can be done but only with the big four. To pull it off you'll need to "walk" your standings with the big four upwards by alternating who you run missions with. I might suggest starting with whomever you've got the lowest faction standing with. Because of the derived standing loss you'll need to switch once a different faction attains the coveted "least favored" status.

Combined the above method with running the SoE and Empire faction Epic Arc, which give you a faction standing gain, but not the derived standings loss, and you can get all four factions above +5.

If you are interested in learning more I would encourage you to check out DMC's Faction Standing Repair Plan, which has some additional tips and tricks.