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blood hauler
The Art of War
#1 - 2012-05-04 16:43:06 UTC
Any chance that the industry index can be based of all the ore mined in that constellation and not just the system. as they is very few systems worth mining in the belts and even fewer high end ores in those systems.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#2 - 2012-05-04 17:56:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
Look on the star map, you can see number of asteroid belts and/or ice belts in any given system.
How much the ore is worth in any given belt is determined by which empire's space you are in (assuming high/low sec) as well as the security status of the system. Sure, individual belts might spawn with a few more high-density astroids than another, but in the long run you can expect the same kind of return from them.

As for which systems are 'worth mining' is a really complex question and heavily depends on what kind of miner you are, what the market prices are for individual minerals, how risk-adverse you are and how lazy you are. Your end purposes for the minerals, your access (or lack thereof) to refining and your hauling capacity also factor in.

I can't tell you much more without specifics.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Abelian0808
Frame Perfect
Kybernauts Clade
#3 - 2012-05-04 19:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Abelian0808
Assuming you're talking about null sec, because the index doesn't change in npc space, it's only based on the ore you mine in the system. Once you raise the industry level you can install upgrades that let you find hidden, better belts. I believe there is also and upgrade that lets you find better ores in regular belts.

Edit: It's also based on m3 mined.
blood hauler
The Art of War
#4 - 2012-05-04 20:08:20 UTC
You get better grav sites based on the index level of the system

a great guide for details ( http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1006/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report.pdf )


as the rating decays at 25% a day it's very hard to keep it up in one system even more so due to the fact that once abc minerals are gone it's better just to rat (you get your isk with out all the other jobs you need to do when mining)

The idea of the m3s mined be spaced out over the constellation would mean that miners would at least be able to mine abc ores in null and not have a lower income per a account than someone ratting (who only has to shot the red cross for his isk and not all the other tasks a miner has to do before he sees his money)
Abelian0808
Frame Perfect
Kybernauts Clade
#5 - 2012-05-04 20:11:12 UTC
blood hauler wrote:
You get better grav sites based on the index level of the system

a great guide for details ( http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1006/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report.pdf )


as the rating decays at 25% a day it's very hard to keep it up in one system even more so due to the fact that once abc minerals are gone it's better just to rat (you get your isk with out all the other jobs you need to do when mining)

The idea of the m3s mined be spaced out over the constellation would mean that miners would at least be able to mine abc ores in null and not have a lower income per a account than someone ratting (who only has to shot the red cross for his isk and not all the other tasks a miner has to do before he sees his money)

So you're more proposing a new system instead of asking about the current system then?
blood hauler
The Art of War
#6 - 2012-05-04 20:22:31 UTC  |  Edited by: blood hauler
Yep was not clear in my first post i am sorry, but i want a change from how it's based now on a system to all systems in the constellation work together to raise all they index; so if miners have to change system then they are still keeping the index up.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-06 15:16:14 UTC
blood hauler wrote:
Yep was not clear in my first post i am sorry, but i want a change from how it's based now on a system to all systems in the constellation work together to raise all they index; so if miners have to change system then they are still keeping the index up.

I'm sorry, but no. This is a bad idea. CCP just got rid of one mineral fountain, and you want to put another in its place? If you want the high end ore, you have to also muck out the low ends to keep the index up. With the prices of minerals now, you won't do so bad mining Veld like us too.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin