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Internet Lawyer Steve
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-06 12:01:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Internet Lawyer Steve
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.

As a famous lawyer in New Eden, I have heard many cases of Miners taking a risk by not fitting a tank for a higher yield or even going afk while they mine. This is a risk YOU take by doing this. CCP shouldnt have to change a game to fit your afk or high risk behavior. CCP also has tools in the game that can help you avoid being ganked. Please take the time to learn about fittings, how to fly your ship and this tool called a Directional Scanner.

Before I leave, My other character is a miner. I have been mining during Hulkageddon in a .5 system that is very busy and has had a ton of Hulk ganks. My ship has survived due to fitting a tank, paying attention and using my DSCAN. Yeah, My yield isnt what it was but my ship is still in one piece and I have escaped every gank attempt.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-06 12:24:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.


OR fit it for yield not tank, do your research before you go to a system, keep your eyes open and dont mine during hulkageddon.
Ive never been ganked in a hulk and Ive never tanked it for anything more than belt rats. Hell Ive never even been attacked cause I tend to mine where people ARENT

However the ship value to ship value comparison in a destroyer killing a Hulk is akin to a BC killing a Carrier. And doing it easily and every single time

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Chump Clone
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-06 12:59:15 UTC
Or you could simply mine in a Rokh...
Lady Hofstedar
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-06 13:01:56 UTC
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.

As a famous lawyer in New Eden, I have heard many cases of Miners taking a risk by not fitting a tank for a higher yield or even going afk while they mine. This is a risk YOU take by doing this. CCP shouldnt have to change a game to fit your afk or high risk behavior. CCP also has tools in the game that can help you avoid being ganked. Please take the time to learn about fittings, how to fly your ship and this tool called a Directional Scanner.

Before I leave, My other character is a miner. I have been mining during Hulkageddon in a .5 system that is very busy and has had a ton of Hulk ganks. My ship has survived due to fitting a tank, paying attention and using my DSCAN. Yeah, My yield isnt what it was but my ship is still in one piece and I have escaped every gank attempt.


shut the **** up. Your a damn tool like every idiot who posts here

No on cares who you are or what you do

**** off
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#5 - 2012-05-06 13:07:24 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.


OR fit it for yield not tank, do your research before you go to a system, keep your eyes open and dont mine during hulkageddon.
Ive never been ganked in a hulk and Ive never tanked it for anything more than belt rats. Hell Ive never even been attacked cause I tend to mine where people ARENT

However the ship value to ship value comparison in a destroyer killing a Hulk is akin to a BC killing a Carrier. And doing it easily and every single time


Carriers are not allowed in highsec under the constant guard of CONCORD. I think you forgot to mention that.

If Hulks get banned from highsec, then by all means, give them the tank of Abbadons. It won't matter, but the wall of tears in local will be even longer.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#6 - 2012-05-06 13:08:39 UTC
Lady Hofstedar wrote:
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.

As a famous lawyer in New Eden, I have heard many cases of Miners taking a risk by not fitting a tank for a higher yield or even going afk while they mine. This is a risk YOU take by doing this. CCP shouldnt have to change a game to fit your afk or high risk behavior. CCP also has tools in the game that can help you avoid being ganked. Please take the time to learn about fittings, how to fly your ship and this tool called a Directional Scanner.

Before I leave, My other character is a miner. I have been mining during Hulkageddon in a .5 system that is very busy and has had a ton of Hulk ganks. My ship has survived due to fitting a tank, paying attention and using my DSCAN. Yeah, My yield isnt what it was but my ship is still in one piece and I have escaped every gank attempt.


shut the **** up. Your a damn tool like every idiot who posts here

No on cares who you are or what you do

**** off


You sound mad. Are you mad?
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-05-06 13:09:39 UTC
To the OP


It only works if you have people ganking for profit or they are not organised.


If the gankers are doing it for lols then you will always die. You can fit your hulk anyway you want but if you bring enough tornados then you have a dead hulk.


1. The best advice i can offer is mine outside of caldari space and mine in back end systems well away from any trade hub or pvp area where people either just pass through or are really seen

2. single best advice i can give is to pick a belt that is more than 14au from a gate and a station and the sun. If you can do that and you combine it with number 1 you may come through hulkaggeddon without any loses
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-06 13:09:57 UTC
The only effective tank against suicide ganks is the opportunity tank.

Maximize yield to make up for occassional losses.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#9 - 2012-05-06 13:12:38 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:

If the gankers are doing it for lols then you will always die.


The "lols" you describe are usually fueled by the tears of carebears. Stop whining and they will stop ganking Cool
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-06 13:13:19 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:

However the ship value to ship value comparison in a destroyer killing a Hulk is akin to a BC killing a Carrier. And doing it easily and every single time

Irrelevant.

Hulk=civilian ship
Destroyer=military ship

Thats like complaining that your enzo got totalled by a basic army 4x4, and complaining because you spent more on your car than he did.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#11 - 2012-05-06 13:20:58 UTC
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:


My other character is a miner.


This discredits your entire statement. If you are going to post and try to tell others whats up, at least have the balls to post on your main.

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Testerxnot Sheepherder
Get Isk or Die Mining
#12 - 2012-05-06 13:22:22 UTC
oh my, another gankers vs miners thread.

did not expect, at all.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-05-06 13:34:41 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
However the ship value to ship value comparison in a destroyer killing a Hulk is akin to a BC killing a Carrier. And doing it easily and every single time

Or like a 50 mil AF killing my 1.5bil ratting tengu. Ooh, surprise! this is not and never been the issue.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-06 13:42:12 UTC
Lady Hofstedar wrote:


shut the **** up. Your a damn tool like every idiot who posts here

No on cares who you are or what you do

**** off



Yes, you are also a tool and an idiot for posting here. You have been notified.

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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#15 - 2012-05-06 13:45:09 UTC
Came expecting a new perspective on the old "Risk v Reward" memme ...

Left disappointed.

Nothing clever at this time.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#16 - 2012-05-06 13:45:10 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
Risk vs. Reward.

As most of you know there are risks in this game. 99 percent of these risks can be avoided if you pay attention, fit your ship with a tank or fly with some friends. There are a lot of posts lately from high sec miners crying about how expensive their hulks were before they were exploded by some Destroyers or a Tornado.


OR fit it for yield not tank, do your research before you go to a system, keep your eyes open and dont mine during hulkageddon.
Ive never been ganked in a hulk and Ive never tanked it for anything more than belt rats. Hell Ive never even been attacked cause I tend to mine where people ARENT

However the ship value to ship value comparison in a destroyer killing a Hulk is akin to a BC killing a Carrier. And doing it easily and every single time
Actually given the ship roles it would be more akin to a megathron killing a rorqual. Which isn't that unrealistic really.

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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#17 - 2012-05-06 13:50:16 UTC
Oh Christ, not this again.

Hi-sec wanabe fail pvpers, grow a pair and find someone who'll only be too happy to shoot back.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#18 - 2012-05-06 13:53:20 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Oh Christ, not this again.

Hi-sec wanabe fail pvpers, grow a pair and find someone who'll only be too happy to shoot back.

Posting to confirm that Eve online is built on the principles of consensual and fair PvP.

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Serene Repose
#19 - 2012-05-06 13:53:45 UTC
Terms of endearment....dear lawyer...

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-05-06 13:58:06 UTC
Chump Clone wrote:
Or you could simply mine in a Rokh...


Much more funny when someone steals from a can and you dont put all mining lasers n it

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