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Players of high sec - CCP is trolling you and laughing while doing it. A proposition.
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Caecilia Arene
Doomheim
#101 - 2012-05-06 11:57:21 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
You are 100% right, nulsec is safer than highsec, and it is for good reason. It takes hundreds and sometimes thousands of people working together, leadership and logistics and defence groups to keep 0.0 safe. The safety is earned by the hard work and endless CTAs of the people who enjoy building something like that in EVE.

The safety of Highsec is not far behind, and you have to do literally nothing to obtain it. Fair.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Nicely put!
Whitehound
#102 - 2012-05-06 11:57:54 UTC
Andski wrote:
Noofels wrote:
I asked how to play a Hulk in high sec.

People answered that I have to do everything one would do in null sec and wh space in order to avoid getting blown up. Thus, we can conclude that high sec space is just as dangerous as null sec.

The risk is equal in both space, so give equal rewards. Bring ABC ores to high sec. At least then we can justify the risk.


ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Now you have done it. You made a Goon's head explode.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2012-05-06 12:00:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

The difference between high sec and everywhere else is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in high sec are not going to try to kill you.


The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-05-06 12:02:07 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.


Sometimes you even have blues trying to kill you.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#105 - 2012-05-06 12:03:32 UTC
Andski wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.


Sometimes you even have blues trying to kill you.


Most of them from TEST.
Whitehound
#106 - 2012-05-06 12:08:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Andski wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.


Sometimes you even have blues trying to kill you.


Most of them from TEST.

This thread is now about zombies.

No, wait. Even zombies know not to eat one another. Roll

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-05-06 12:13:56 UTC
Andski wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.


Sometimes you even have blues trying to kill you.


Man that's mean, you seem nice I'd never shoot you Roll
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#108 - 2012-05-06 12:15:54 UTC
Anyone climbing into a 300m isk ship should know better.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#109 - 2012-05-06 12:16:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Lady Hofstedar wrote:


ccp didnt **** this game

Highsec risk averse griefer pilots did, period, end of


yup - btw... when you lose your ship 100% of the time its no longer a risk, its a business expense

Takseen wrote:


You don't need to run faster than the lion, you just have to run faster than other gazelles...



You don't need to run faster than the lion, you just have to run faster than the friend you trip (OR ala The Walking Dead the one you shoot in the leg)

hey look an andski red bar Im assuming its a well written retort with all the wit we've learned to expect from Mittens' alt.

Yeah I doubt it too hence why Im not clicking on it lol

Whitehound's sig is how you should vote miners. Last time ppl left en mass that happened. Do it again I bet something changes.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-05-06 12:18:58 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Lady Hofstedar wrote:


ccp didnt **** this game

Highsec risk averse griefer pilots did, period, end of


yup


yeah the gankers are risk-averse, much unlike the hulk pilots who whine on the forums about how risky it is

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-05-06 12:20:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
The difference between everywhere else and high sec is 99.9% of the neutrals you see in 0.0/lowsec are going to try and kill you.


Sometimes you even have blues trying to kill you all the time.
Iselsi Custodis
NoxArcana
#112 - 2012-05-06 12:28:02 UTC
TLDR - OP is crying that he lost his Hulk, in highsec, during an event that is NOTORIOUS for suicide ganking his preferred ship type, doing his preferred activity, in his preferred level of security of space.

And you're wondering why you lost it? /facepalm

And btw - that nifty directional scanner? its not just a hood ornament.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#113 - 2012-05-06 12:28:09 UTC
Mr Droneson wrote:
ill say what has been said but clear as crystal glass.

GROW THE **** UP AND GET SOME DAMN BALLS THE GAME IS NOT UNBALANCED THE GAME IS PRETTY DAMN BALANCED AS IS, IF YOUR DIEING TO GANKS BECAUSE OF HULKAGEDDON L2P IT'S THAT SIMPLE. STOP FAIL FITTING, WATCH YOUR ******* OVERVIEW AND L2P AGAIN. I HAVE TOONS I MINE ON NO PROBLEM HELL IF AFK MINERS COULD GO ABOUT BUISSNESS WITH TITAN LIKE TANKS THEN MINERALS PRICES WOULD SINK SO LOW IT WOULDN'T BE FUNNY AND MACRO MINERS WOULD BE POPULAR BEYOND CONTAINMENT AND THE GAME WOULD JUST DIE. FACT IS NO TANK WILL SAVE A HULK FROM GANKERS. YOUR BEST BET IS TO BUFFER TANK YOUR SHIELDS AND MAKE SURE U HAVE A WARP STAB ON SO U CAN GTFO WHEN THE GANKERS ROLL IN AND BE ALIGNED FOR GOD SAKES


Someone needs a nap.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#114 - 2012-05-06 12:34:53 UTC
Iselsi Custodis wrote:
TLDR - OP is crying that he lost his Hulk, in highsec, during an event that is NOTORIOUS for suicide ganking his preferred ship type, doing his preferred activity, in his preferred level of security of space.

And you're wondering why you lost it? /facepalm

And btw - that nifty directional scanner? its not just a hood ornament.


Yeah well a brain isnt there just to take up space but we see how well its being used in the OP's case

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#115 - 2012-05-06 12:37:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Lady Hofstedar wrote:


ccp didnt **** this game

Highsec risk averse griefer pilots did, period, end of


yup


yeah the gankers are risk-averse, much unlike the hulk pilots who whine on the forums about how risky it is


I'm not sure how gankers are risk averse though - they're just using the right tool for the job.

It would be stupid to sacrifice a 500m isk ship when a 5m isk one does the job.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#116 - 2012-05-06 12:37:53 UTC
OP should go home and reconsider what game he wants to be really playing. EVE is hard. Suicide ganking is a feature, not a glitch. Just what would be the acceptable cost for a suicide ganker?

And before you answer, let me ask you this: if all it takes is a trasher to kill a noobship carrying 20 plexes (worth 10 bil) in highsec, wouldn't you use the same logic to defend the victim? It is clearly the victim's fault in this scenario, yet the hulk pilot who does nothing to prevent a suicide gank should not be at risk?

Cost of the ship is NOT a factor when factoring risk, but there are several OTHER games that are pay-to-win for you choosing. Hulks are not meant to be tanked locally, there are meant to be tanked by being smart. If you don't know what that means, nobody can help you... sorry.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#117 - 2012-05-06 12:42:13 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
OP should go home and reconsider what game he wants to be really playing. EVE is hard. Suicide ganking is a feature, not a glitch. Just what would be the acceptable cost for a suicide ganker?

And before you answer, let me ask you this: if all it takes is a trasher to kill a noobship carrying 20 plexes (worth 10 bil) in highsec, wouldn't you use the same logic to defend the victim? It is clearly the victim's fault in this scenario, yet the hulk pilot who does nothing to prevent a suicide gank should not be at risk?

Cost of the ship is NOT a factor when factoring risk, but there are several OTHER games that are pay-to-win for you choosing. Hulks are not meant to be tanked locally, there are meant to be tanked by being smart. If you don't know what that means, nobody can help you... sorry.


If miners had any sense they'd move to one of the literally hundreds of empty low-sec systems.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2012-05-06 12:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Kreshant
No stop mining instead, it's a terribly dull and needs to be redone before anyone wastes more time on it.
Whitehound
#119 - 2012-05-06 12:43:28 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
OP should go home and reconsider what game he wants to be really playing. ...

Everyone out!

This is now Kerrigan's game.

You have heard it here first. Lol

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Volksterb
#120 - 2012-05-06 12:46:31 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
OP should go home and reconsider what game he wants to be really playing. ...

Everyone out!

This is now Kerrigan's game.

You have heard it here first. Lol


That seems to be the attitude of the psuedo-pvp gankbear elites. But what would they do without us miners since they are too afraid to fight real ships, guess go play warcrap or something.