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Which mobile apps do you want
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#1 - 2012-05-05 18:26:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
What kind of apps do you want to see on Android?

Not just limited to android phones but also what kind of things would you want to see as interaction with devices paired with Android that would be useful?

Reason I am asking is because I am currently playing with bluetooth on droid etc and haptic/augmented interfacing.

Dont limit your ideas to a droid smartphone or tablet, also think about droid watches and other wearable.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#2 - 2012-05-05 18:59:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
An example could be a using the Health Device Profile for Bluetooth and monitor your corp pilot's during an "event" :) Kind of like Aliens the movie where each squad member has their lifesigns on the screen.

Or using Health monitoring devices to detect lying lol Anything outlandish

Ideas like that or something that isnt just a page with some account skilling info

Something that is "way out there " :)
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#3 - 2012-05-06 11:35:55 UTC
Nobody got any ideas? Maybe Eve API really is that boring and limited :)
LifeHatesMe
LifeHatesUsAll
#4 - 2012-05-06 15:56:20 UTC
Ambition is key in any design. I would suggest that you try using Aura. Then try finding ways to improve Aura. Since it's closed source, you can try to write a better version of it. The one thing I miss the most is Capsuleers' blog code, where I could read stories that where EVE-Related from other players on the go.

I would highly reccomend focusing on basic features first, and then mapping out to more complicated stuff. The API is too broken at the moment for ship status the way you mention it. Also the API doesn't give you real time info on shields, armor, hull, or anything like that. Sorry! :P

I have ideas, but.. I don't know, every idea I can think of would be sophisticated. I have no idea on your skill level either.. xP
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#5 - 2012-05-06 17:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Closed source doesn't exist with java. I can just pull the APK and then rename to .zip, convert the DEX to JAR and view the compiler generated code.

The point was to get some "way out there" ideas not just another char viewer app. I am a developer, I don't need "lessons" on "doing basic things" thanks.

Perhaps something that could integrate with external devices I can control via bluetooth, or something. Not just limited to phones, but also other droid form factors (and not just tablets) :) It could be watches, or headware, or earpieces etc, locations, i dono. Anything that isnt just a form and list :) Something that could augment the "physical world". Could be a mesh network even of adhoc droid devices but has to give some new way of interacting with the Eve API (and others) in the real world.

There is health input devices, there is RFCOMM devices (bluetooth Serial), and so on, there is locations, and other content providers that could be used to augment the EVE api. Too many boring "char viewer" type apps.
Nutbolt
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-06 19:08:37 UTC
It is only limited to devices with cameras (phones and tablets) but perhaps a sort of augmented reality where you point the camera at the screen (where you naturally have eve running), and if you have the ship viewer open (i.e. shown info on a ship) it detects what ship you are viewing and loads up an on the fly pop up displaying the vital stats, which is anchored to the image (i.e. if you move the camera, the popup stays near the ship viewer).

Use: So you just warped in cloaked to a ship or two and want to know the important stats on those ships and for whatever reason dont like the ingame show info, (such as speed, EHP, does it have a neut bonus (i.e. have neuts fitted)), you simply open the show info on the ship, click the ship image to bring up the ship viewer, point your phone or tablet at the screen and it pops up with this info. You could perhaps link it to the api and have a comparison to the ship you are flying, however as already stated the api isnt real time and has its issues.

Anyway just an idea, and already partly redundant due to the show info window lol.

You could perhaps link up augmented reality glasses like the new google ones, but 1.) not a very big user base I would think and 2.) have no idea if they link up to android devices :D

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#7 - 2012-05-07 17:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Nutbolt wrote:
It is only limited to devices with cameras (phones and tablets) but perhaps a sort of augmented reality where you point the camera at the screen (where you naturally have eve running), and if you have the ship viewer open (i.e. shown info on a ship) it detects what ship you are viewing and loads up an on the fly pop up displaying the vital stats, which is anchored to the image (i.e. if you move the camera, the popup stays near the ship viewer).

Use: So you just warped in cloaked to a ship or two and want to know the important stats on those ships and for whatever reason dont like the ingame show info, (such as speed, EHP, does it have a neut bonus (i.e. have neuts fitted)), you simply open the show info on the ship, click the ship image to bring up the ship viewer, point your phone or tablet at the screen and it pops up with this info. You could perhaps link it to the api and have a comparison to the ship you are flying, however as already stated the api isnt real time and has its issues.

Anyway just an idea, and already partly redundant due to the show info window lol.

You could perhaps link up augmented reality glasses like the new google ones, but 1.) not a very big user base I would think and 2.) have no idea if they link up to android devices :D


Could be extended to any app and use Google Search API to look up anything that it might recognise, trickey problem is the image recognition and the flickering screen (and also LCD's are polarised so tilting the camera would make the screen go BLACK :) ).

Interesting is that this could be extrapolated to cover anything and not just eve.

Android has Voice recognition API built in (but depends on the internet access for processing), and it has Facial recognition built in (used to unlock 4.x+ versions), Havn't checked but I wonder if that could be used for "avatar" recognition, I would imagine it would be limited to facial features ("strategic makeup" can fool facial recognition, and in real life facial recognition too). I have done image recognition using Matrox image Library (MIL), saves the hard heavy lifting of the math but that isn't stock API's in droid, preferably would be to use what is in the SDK, or worst case, hope for an open source library that could be redistributed. Commerical libraries for processing would be out really as licensing issues.

Usually image recognition depends on a library that is built up (learned) from Edge detection, Binarise and masking algorithms and then transformations to identify them from any angle (I have done industry system image recognition before).

Another key factor for controlling image recognition is LIGHTING, lighting is very important in this. And LCD's might be too "uneven" not to mention the polarisation issue.