Crime & Punishment

One of the things I don't know is covops transports. Would it be reasonably safe to use one for high sec shopping on a -10 security character? I know you can warp around high in ceptors and such without being caught, but will the cloak save me from the slow align speed of an industrial ship? Anyone tried it before?

The NPCs see through it or what?

Edit: And if I stick a bunch of gyros and nanos in the lows will it be reasonably safe to go and pick stuff up? Trying to find a way to avoid using an alt to supply me. If low sec is still like I remember it, it's pretty much impossible to fit a ship there without going 50 jumps and paying 5 times what stuff is worth.

Edit 2: By "safe" I mean from the NPCs. Of course players will still be able to get me.

Yeah sorry I meant inertial stabilizers not gyro stabilizers. Sucks you can't turn your cloak on. That's lame WoW style ****. Good to know the T2 transports warp fast enough to still do the job though. Thanks for the answers. o7

Edit: Wait, what?! HICs don't work in high sec last time I checked. I'm talking about going shopping in high sec on a -10 character in a T2 transport. Oh and for the record I don't even like to go to Jita on characters with good security status so no worries about that.

Edit 2: It's been a long time since I quit. Instaundocks are made by undocking and turning on MWD in a fast frig, waiting until you get to minimum warp distance from the station and bookmarking there, right? What's minimum warp distance again? Like 250km or something? Or is that maximum sniper range? Gate gun range? My memory is bad, but I know 250km is the range for something.

Edit 3: Between memory loss and all the changes I feel like I'm half way back to being a newbie again. Sorry for bothering you guys with all the stupid questions. As hard as it may be to believe I used to be a (mostly) competent pirate.

I see. The only time I was in 0.0 was in a renter corp and I wasn't there all that long. I don't have too much experience with HICs. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thanks again.

I'm morally against using alts to bypass game mechanics and will only do so as an absolute last resort. I take my security status like a man. In fact it'll be easier now that CCP kindly gave me a hauler I can warp fast enough in.

I've flown in high sec with a low rating before. I just wasn't sure if it was doable on transports since I never flew one before and the last time I had a bad security rating was before they came out.


I tried courier contracts before, but it can take forever for someone to accept them. Are there actual corps that do that now? I think I heard about one. Something with frog in the name maybe?

Yeah that's what I was thinking of.

One thing to note is the speed of the covert ops transport ships, in particular the Viator . I have recently started using one of these and they are really quick (especially because they are industrial ships). Warp speed for me is 12AU (with training, although not sure if further training will enhance this), so your sure to beat most from gate to gate.

I know you say your against alts but a high sec hauler/market alt is pretty much the most useful thing ever. You can train an alt into a bestower in just a few hours. You should also use this alt to maintain market orders on loot you are selling or things you are buying.

Eventually you will kill something shiney. You will be overjoyed and need to ship all your fancy modules to a trade hub for sale. You will need to update these orders. You can either do this in a few minutes with an alt or you can shuttle your main back and forth through high sec hoping that someone in a sensor boosted thrasher doesn't snag you.

The other option is to join a low sec corp that has the logistics figured out.