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What is the best ship for highsex plex and exploration sites?
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ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-06 05:59:46 UTC
I am thinking of getting into exploration and plex sights in highsec and am wondering what would be a good ship.

I currently fly Caldari and I am considering Amarr. I have considered a Nighthawk a Navy Augoror and a Prophecy. I am open to any recommend.

What kind of range can I get on the Navy Aug? Can I hit things 50km out?

I am growing bored with Eve and if I do not find a new way to have fun I am going to stop playing within the next 30 days.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-05-06 06:36:44 UTC
T3. Especially Tengu, but they all work just fine (I tend to use a Loki myself).
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2012-05-06 06:50:06 UTC
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I am thinking of getting into exploration and plex sights in highsec and am wondering what would be a good ship.

I currently fly Caldari and I am considering Amarr. I have considered a Nighthawk a Navy Augoror and a Prophecy. I am open to any recommend.

What kind of range can I get on the Navy Aug? Can I hit things 50km out?

I am growing bored with Eve and if I do not find a new way to have fun I am going to stop playing within the next 30 days.


If you can fly a Nighthawk, you can fly a Tengu -- and for this purpose you should. If you want to explore high sec (which, meh, go to low, but each to his own) you want an all in one setup, so make sure you have both the accelerated ejection bay and the emergent locus analyzer. If you want to run radars, you'll need to fit a codebreaker as well. You don't have to trick out your fit; high sec exploration doesn't require much tank.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-06 07:08:15 UTC
I can be in a Nighthawk in 14 days. That is why I am considering it.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2012-05-06 07:38:10 UTC
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I can be in a Nighthawk in 14 days. That is why I am considering it.


Then a Tengu should be ~7 days. Caldari Strategic Cruiser 1 and all 5 subs to 4 should be fine. Offensive to 5 would be a plus.
ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-06 09:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ReptilesBlade
Zhilia Mann wrote:
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I can be in a Nighthawk in 14 days. That is why I am considering it.


Then a Tengu should be ~7 days. Caldari Strategic Cruiser 1 and all 5 subs to 4 should be fine. Offensive to 5 would be a plus.


I actually already have a tengu with all 5 subs at 4 or better. I do not want to use it for this because I also use it for sneaking around in low and null if I need or want to. I suppose I could get a second hull and play with that a bit though...

What subs would you recommend? Passive or Active tanked? I have never flown one in a combat role.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-05-06 09:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Verity Sovereign
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I currently fly Caldari and I am considering Amarr.
...
I am growing bored with Eve and if I do not find a new way to have fun I am going to stop playing within the next 30 days.



You should have known the answer would have been the Tengu when it came to "best ship" and not in a PvP or incursion scenario.

As to boredom... maybe you don't want to use missiles?
Pew pew of pretty lights, the complications of range and tracking (because range is rarely an issue with heavy missiles), watching your shields melt as if they weren't there before seeing your armor tank shrug off the incoming DPS... I think Amarr might be more fun for you. (of course, I hear they are better for PvP as well)

But if that doesn't do it for ya.... then....

I can haz ur stuff?

Quote:
What is the best ship for highsex

I'm thinking a ship based off the Thorax hull, followed by an armageddon based hull or an Omen based hull.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#8 - 2012-05-06 13:04:29 UTC
The good ship 'Frie-'...ah, you know what I mean :)
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#9 - 2012-05-06 13:25:57 UTC
ReptilesBlade wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
ReptilesBlade wrote:
I can be in a Nighthawk in 14 days. That is why I am considering it.


Then a Tengu should be ~7 days. Caldari Strategic Cruiser 1 and all 5 subs to 4 should be fine. Offensive to 5 would be a plus.


I actually already have a tengu with all 5 subs at 4 or better. I do not want to use it for this because I also use it for sneaking around in low and null if I need or want to. I suppose I could get a second hull and play with that a bit though...

What subs would you recommend? Passive or Active tanked? I have never flown one in a combat role.


If you already have a tengu that you use for sneaking around, just swap the subsystems around and use it for exploration too. Rigs don't make that big of a difference - it's still going to be better than NH for the job. Unless your tengu is and will be located in nullsec, that is.

You can even carry the subs around where ever you are, thus you can stealthily seek the sites and swap into a fit if you have a friendly station around.
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-06 15:27:29 UTC
Quote:
highsex

Thorax!
Orlacc
#11 - 2012-05-06 16:39:43 UTC
T3

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-06 18:08:44 UTC
Drone ships are the way to go.
You need empty high and mid slots for probe launcher, salvager, codebreaker, analyzer.
So gun or missile ships are not suitable as they take up the high slots.

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Tikera Tissant
#13 - 2012-05-06 18:23:40 UTC
Ishtar?
AB drake?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#14 - 2012-05-06 18:28:37 UTC
Tengu for combat plexes could look like this:


[Tengu, exploration combined highsec cheap]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Medium Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II

Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Deep Space Scanner Probe I
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Drone boats do have more spare slots for profession equipment though.
Caldari Citizen 786478786
#15 - 2012-05-06 20:05:33 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Drone ships are the way to go.
You need empty high and mid slots for probe launcher, salvager, codebreaker, analyzer.
So gun or missile ships are not suitable as they take up the high slots.


Drone ships are a waste of time in exploration for any but the youngest of Eve capsuleers or for anybody who is capable of running Combat sites. If you can run the combat sites, do yourself a favor and skip the Mags and Radars as their payouts in highsec are pitiful and focus instead on the 3/10 and 4/10 DED sites. It's not uncommon to see drops in the 4/10 sites worth upwards of 1bil ISK, depending on which NPC space you are exploring. Now consider the "average" payout for Highsec Radars is in the ~20mil ISK per site range (purely anecdotal) and Mags are worth even less, you can understand why it's in the best interest of any explorer to get yourself a Tengu, or any of the other less effective T3s, and start hunting down those DED sites.
Boomhaur
#16 - 2012-05-07 00:31:19 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
The good ship 'Frie-'...ah, you know what I mean :)


I prefer Fatalities over Friendship though.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-05-07 05:09:44 UTC
Ishtar > Tengu > other T3s

You need speed and DPS, and certainly doing those Radars is worth it, they take less five minutes so they have a very nice isk/hour rate. And why not salvage the elite wreck.

Especially rate of fire is important when contesting for popping the overseers. Fit the Ishtar for dual-prop and Neutrons, and laugh at those Tengus.

You will also want an AF for the smaller plexes, Ishkur wins that race.

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