EVE General Discussion

You guys sure are taking this bad news of "CCP taking away our beloved door" well.

I am still waiting for the forum thread "PLS GIVE US OUR DOOR BACK NOA OR I BE EVEN MORE BITTER THAN BEFORE".

If you burned up your video card with CQ, then you were probably being an idiot and playing on a laptop, only to moan about how it overheats. No ****, Sherlock...craptops weren't meant to play graphics-intensive games. The nVidia/ATI argument is moot if you're playing on a desktop.

Whining about how you blew up your video card because you were foolishly playing on a craptop when you could've bought a desktop for half the price is the same as buying a Honda and complaining that you can't go as fast as a Ferrari.

And don't say you needed a laptop because you're a college student. Students have been going to university for thousands of years without a ******* laptop.

Haha no, I'm just sick of all the people slagging on Incarna, saying it "blew up their computer" when they were moronically using a laptop to play a graphics-intensive video game. It's not 2003 anymore and this isn't WoW.

I have a laptop and a desktop, but I'm not ******** enough to attempt to play Eve with all its new updates on it.

These people are the Eve version of the Tea Party.

Jesus. The community spends a huge amount of capital bitching about the loss of functionality that removing the hanger makes.

Then they spend a huge amount of time whining about getting it back and CCP not spending time on the "real" issues.

One day somebody will post something constructive and CCP will pass out with shock.

Personally I like the changes on Sisi - my gpu is having a bit of a time with it but that is my own issue and not one that requires any input from anyone else. My PC is due some care and attention anyways. That said I would never expect to be able to play games effectively on a laptop - blame the laptop manufacterers for that tho - they have always lagged massively behind "proper" pcs.

It's nice to see CCP having the balls to change course - if they continue with it by fixing some of the gameplay issues I will be truly happy. They can't do it all at once however so I will be patient.

So tl;dr - I like it CCP - keep going and listen to the issues presented about gameplay = happy playerbase = income.

No.

Poorly optimized? Really? I have a 5 year old desktop with an nVidia GTS 450, 3 gigs of RAM and a dual core 3 gig processor and it runs flawlessly. FLAWLESSLY. Both CPU and GPU have never gone over 50 degrees Celsius with the game graphics on full blast.

It's not poorly optimized; sure, there was some code that needed improvement that gave people errors, but that's with every patch. No, the fact of the matter is that dumbasses want cutting edge graphics that will run on a ******* abacus with no problems.

Well, they can wish in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which one gets filled first. The fact that this was ever even an issue is another example that everyone who complains about Incarna's problems needs to seriously GTFO. It's one thing to complain about serious bugs and such, but slagging CCP as a whole because the players are too poor/stupid/both to upgrade the components of their hobby like EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY DOES simply means they are just oxygen to carbon dioxide converters. If you can't afford to upgrade your computer, then maybe you have much bigger problems that you're neglecting as it is. (Not you, just "you" in the second person)

They can all go die in a fire...they contribute absolutely nothing to this community or this game.

U mad bro?

I agree that people should stop complaining at new code having higher requirements for hardware.

I also believe that CCP should have far higher levels of communication about their minimum specs.

It isn't hard. Companies have been at it for years.

So you are right but god-damn your delivery sucked.

1) Are you trolling? The 450's only been out for a year or two, 3 ghz procesors even today are considered good, and the problem with eve has never been RAM (though as I say this I notice my client eating about a gig of it just sitting in station)

I actually just went and looked up the specs on the gts 450, and the damn thing runs off of a gig of ram, and even now retails for about 120bucks. Come on, now you're just being silly.
Eve was actually fairly well known for being just that for the longest time. It had amazing graphics with very small system requirements. Now it has decent graphics with very high system requirements. Progress.

Again, you're looking at it as though it's the one central problem people have with incarna. The people who think like this are a small subset of the people who dislike incarna; for most of us it's just one of many problems (I personally dislike that it used to be easier to run 10 clients than it currently is to run 2, but that's not my main reason for disliking the update)

And how has hardware requirements going up never been an issue? The last time CCP did it people got really pissy, but at least then the reasoning was sound (new skins for literally everything, and not having time to make 2 skins for each ship they release) and the graphics were actually updated in a way that made most people say holy **** that's insane. Now they've done it again, while completely neglecting a mountain of changes people have been asking for, with no real benefit to the space part of internet spaceships, and for an addition that, let's be honest, is a pathetic excuse of an expansion.

CCP: OK guys, we've just spent the last year working on this new expansion, it's going to totally revolutionize the way you play eve!
Players: Really? What is it?
CCP: We're going to let you get out of your ship!
Players: Wow! So we can go and chill in stations with our corp and stuff?
CCP: Well, no, there is no multiplayer aspect to this expansion, and you can only walk around one generic room, but there's going to be all kinds of stuff to do in that room, like look at a screen! Or sit on a sofa! We're even going to be including a hallway! Oh, one small thing though; this revolutionary change might melt your graphics card, because of all the amazing things it will now have to render, like that wall, or that rail, or that sofa.



Are we talking about people complaining or CCP?

I assume you are running one client?

my 2.5 year old desktop (Phenom X4 920, Radeon HD 4850, 8GB RAM) is able to handle 3 clients in space just fine but I experience very noticeable framerate drops with 2 clients running CQ.
(To the point that I actually started looking into upgrading the graphics card because I don't like staring at the door and CQ just felt unplayable - but I don't want to spend money on a top of the line card yet and the 4850 still compares quite nicely to the more affordable models)

Given how CCP promotes running multiple accounts through both game mechanics (cynos) and promotions (power of 2) their stance of "hey, look our minimum specs are actually quite reasonable - if you want to run 2 clients you are obviously doing sth wrong" is not credible.

Just a point ... been doing some testing on sisi and the temp of my graphics card stays the same in ship spinning or the CQ, also as of yet there is no way i can see of getting the ship spinning up with the load station environment aka "door" button unchecked

Tea Partiers are self reliant, pay their bills, save money, spend it wisely, and demand the govenrment do the same. What you're desribing sounds more like your average broke ass, cracked-out, hoodie-wearing welfare dependant parasite. Those tend to be Democrats.

Oh and I have a very high end computer and I play Eve at max settings. But two Incarna environments runs like ****, and I shouldn't have to put up with that just to trade cargo.