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I say "to-may-toes". You say "to-mah-toes". Why do we fight?

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#21 - 2012-05-06 01:16:43 UTC
The arguments we have are our way of getting along. It may appear like we don't like other play styles but most of us don't mind it and know its all part of the game. Even the talking about other play styles like they're stupid and boring is part of a game we play.

You could choose to see the "my play style is better than the others" as role playing.
Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-06 01:25:13 UTC
Very libertarian. Good read too. Thanks.

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.

Serene Repose
#23 - 2012-05-06 01:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Anybody that doesn't want somebody preventing them from doing what they're trying to do to STOP is a fool. It seems a lot of people from all play "styles" want somebody to stop doing SOMETHING. I just advocate being aware of what these "styles" are. Forewarned is forearmed. I'd suggest not reading things into what people say...if it doesn't say it right there, assuming "what they really mean" is childish. (Now we know how to be a fool, and a child.) Oddly enough, I know where the keys are on my keyboard, and if I wanted to type "stop X" I can manage. I've only advocated that the calibration of the game be within relative balance, and counter-intuitive conditions be brought within reason.

And, of course, some of my suggestions are straight from the theater of the absurd. There's a lot of SERIOUS people who can't quite GRASP that for their SERIOUSNESS. (You know who you are.)

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#24 - 2012-05-06 01:45:33 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Serene Repose wrote:
Anybody that doesn't want somebody preventing them from doing what they're trying to do to STOP is a fool.
...
There's a lot of SERIOUS people who can't quite GRASP that for their SERIOUSNESS. (You know who you are.)

That first sentence is hard to read. I'm not sure if it is saying the opposite to what I think it means.

Wait a second... Am I too serious? Oh crap, you're talking about me.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-05-06 01:54:19 UTC
Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:
tomato: Fruit or Vegetable? :)

Ketchup is a smoothie
Serene Repose
#26 - 2012-05-06 03:41:28 UTC
non judgement wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Anybody that doesn't want somebody preventing them from doing what they're trying to do to STOP is a fool.
...
There's a lot of SERIOUS people who can't quite GRASP that for their SERIOUSNESS. (You know who you are.)

That first sentence is hard to read. I'm not sure if it is saying the opposite to what I think it means.

Wait a second... Am I too serious? Oh crap, you're talking about me.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Lakshmii
Korona Radiata
#27 - 2012-05-06 05:15:10 UTC
Boil 'em mash 'em stick 'em in a stew.

ಠ_ರೃ

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#28 - 2012-05-06 05:45:54 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?

"Ahma PVE kinda guy. I like that computer-generated opposition. To me it's like going toe-to-toe with the devs. They say, 'Try this, suckah!' I say, 'Let me attem foo'!' I used to box middle-weight. I'd say that's more PvP than most folks see in a lifetime. Why can't PvP-ers just pass us 'I'd rather be doing something a bit more low-key' folks by. Aren't there plenty of people to mix it up with? OR...is it you just want to pound on somebody who can't pound back to get a vicarious thrill that you're really doing something I used to get paid to do, smackin' the bejeezus outta sumbuddy? I have no doubt...just want to see if honesty lives."

"I mine. It's part of this intricate industrial/marketing enterprise me and a few folks have put together using EVE mechanics and our own initiative. My job is mining. Other folks mastered marketing and manufacturing. Together we accomplish great things and have tons of fun doing it. I know this sort of fun isn't for everyone, but it's our kind of fun. EVE-ers use the stuff we build to keep going in the game. If it weren't for the likes of us, the market would be EMPTY. Can I get a 'live and let live' from you on this?"

"I PvP. I've spent years developing the skills, loading the queue, losing ships, killing ships to the point where I'm quite proficient at this combat thing. Small roaming groups, medium-sized fleet fights, anything but the blob; I'm in come Hell or high water. It's my thing. It's what I do. I've got some friends who do it with me, and we've been doing it so long together we work like a well-oiled machine. We don't win every fight. We don't cry about the losses unless it was some STUPID mistake. Equal opponents are good. Beating someone that's better...is better. We got game."

"I'm into the same thing with every game I play. If it's not in it, I don't play it. Me and some buds like to come up on some poor, unsuspecting carebear and murderlize them, rob them blind and run off laughing our arses off. We're not allowed to do this in real life (without going to jail), so we do it here. It's fun. It's funny. Some gotta win. Some gotta lose. Poor old carebear's got the blues. Stay off my game style. We have the right to fight. It's our party!"

Now, I've been thinking lately about two numbers; 0 and 1. To be a 0 is to be a nobody, a has been, a clod. To be number 1 is to be the acme, the winner - the top of the heap. What disturbs me about these two numbers is there's not very much room in between for everybody else! What we need here is a little latitude. -Laurie Anderson-


Honest answer? Because everyone getting along is really, really boring. Not just a little boring, but a lot boring. It would make this game worse than any other game on the market.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-05-06 13:35:22 UTC
Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:
tomato: Fruit or Vegetable? :)

What's odd about tomatoes is they are related to peppers. Peppers are fruit, therefore 'maters are too.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Serene Repose
#30 - 2012-05-06 13:37:03 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Honest answer? Because everyone getting along is really, really boring. Not just a little boring, but a lot boring. It would make this game worse than any other game on the market.

Ain't that the truth?! Still. We don't have to hate each other. We all have more in common than we dare to imagine.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Testerxnot Sheepherder
Get Isk or Die Mining
#31 - 2012-05-06 13:41:21 UTC
hi serene, will u be my girlfriend?
Serene Repose
#32 - 2012-05-06 13:45:03 UTC
I imagine I'm not that daring. *demure*

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Amanda Holland
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-05-06 13:54:03 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?




PVP game sez no

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past"

Serene Repose
#34 - 2012-05-06 13:55:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Amanda Holland wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?




PVP game sez no

We found one! The "sandbox" is now a "PvP game." Just ask...who is this? AMANDA! Thanks, Amanda. We needed you to say this. It was so obvious. We, on the other hand, so blind. You're a pip. Let us know the next decree you have. We do so like to keep up with YOUR reality.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2012-05-06 15:27:57 UTC
Amanda Holland wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?

PVP game sez no

By getting along, you don't actually mean ... can't we all just blob up, I hope. Because PvP and blobbing are great friends!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-05-06 15:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
"I'm a PvP kind of guy. My content is players. My playstyle is crippled in the area with the most content. **** carebears! Their crying caused this."

That's why we can't get along. I'll be nice to you when concord blows up your hulk for mining and when you stop trying to get my content nerfed even more.
Serene Repose
#37 - 2012-05-06 15:47:46 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Amanda Holland wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?

PVP game sez no

By getting along, you don't actually mean ... can't we all just blob up, I hope. Because PvP and blobbing are great friends!

I'll go you one further. I'm not suggesting we DO get along...per se. I do think we should consider other people's right to be themselves when we're talking about how the game should be in terms of mechanics...but no, not all kissy kissy feely feely...unless of course you buy me dinner first.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#38 - 2012-05-06 15:56:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Serene Repose wrote:
Amanda Holland wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Er...why can't we all just GET ALONG?




PVP game sez no

We found one! The "sandbox" is now a "PvP game." Just ask...who is this? AMANDA! Thanks, Amanda. We needed you to say this. It was so obvious. We, on the other hand, so blind. You're a pip. Let us know the next decree you have. We do so like to keep up with YOUR reality.


Given that CCP is saying they want more control in the game and putting t2 production in null an all there is no sandbox game. High sec will be becoming "starter area" and null "end game" just like the trolls say

But yeah the nonconsentual nature of the pvp in this game makes it pvp game first. Cause even if you dont wanna pvp, noone cares.

Well onlt YOU care. The ganker doesnt

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#39 - 2012-05-06 16:17:00 UTC
It's claimed that everything is possible in EVE, but in reality everything revolves around blowing other people up. If you stop blowing up other players, you find yourself with nothing to do, except mining, industry, or playing the markets, but those are also driven by blowing other people up.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#40 - 2012-05-06 17:02:29 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
It's claimed that everything is possible in EVE, but in reality everything revolves around blowing other people up. If you stop blowing up other players, you find yourself with nothing to do, except mining, industry, or playing the markets, but those are also driven by blowing other people up.


or blowing ppl up in high sec which is whats happening now with null lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

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