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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#1 - 2012-05-05 09:54:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyndrogen
Oh wow did I fall for a scam tonight!!! Holy wallet pain!

BUY order is placed for 80,000 with a minimum of 20,000 units (also happens to be the total amount needed, )

Sell order is placed for 40,000 at a different station.

I bought the cheaper version, hauled to another station to sell and POOF...... sell order is gone!!!!!!

How is this possible? I thought this scam was only setup for contract trading with margin trading?


This was NOT a contract , this was a pure market BUY and SELL order. How is this possible?

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-05-05 10:14:19 UTC
You thought wrong. Margin trading is for normal market orders. This is the scam the forums are talking about for a long time.
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#3 - 2012-05-05 10:19:52 UTC
Rajan Marelona wrote:
You thought wrong. Margin trading is for normal market orders. This is the scam the forums are talking about for a long time.


very very effective. Can anything be done to get my ISK back or is that it?

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#4 - 2012-05-05 10:26:39 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
very very effective. Can anything be done to get my ISK back or is that it?


Nope. No rules were broken. Think about it rationally for a moment and you'll realize that you were the victim of your own greed, and nothing else.
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-05 10:44:05 UTC
its this thread again

hello
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#6 - 2012-05-05 11:01:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyndrogen
Mu-Shi Ai wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
very very effective. Can anything be done to get my ISK back or is that it?


Nope. No rules were broken. Think about it rationally for a moment and you'll realize that you were the victim of your own greed, and nothing else.


Eve is an evil game, and Turizmo, the guy who brilliantly scammed me, deserves my ISK. I hope he uses it better then I did. My career in eve is done. I'm done, I have literally nothing left and even if I did, I can't justify spending another minute investing time in a game that allows fictitious BUY orders. As far as I am concerned it's a broken/malicious game mechanic.

If I had any stuff left I would give it away, my time in eve has concluded.

Thanks for the fun times but I have to move on.

Cyndrogen 2009-2012

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
papamike
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-05 11:08:02 UTC
I dont believe a 3yr old player would be dumb enough to pour every last bit of isk into a single market order and have nothing left to fall back on

Im calling a troll/ melodramatic rage post from someone who isnt in fact 'quiting eve'

If you arent trolling or embellishing your rage-quit, honestly youre a **** and probably wont be missed by anyone.
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-05 11:42:11 UTC
I logged in just to +1 this ^
Perramas
DreddNaut
#9 - 2012-05-05 12:18:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Perramas
This sounds like the old I was scammed scam looking for some bleeding heart to drop a bunch of ISK on you. If I am wrong the OP will be a valuable lesson to the newer players.

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people- Eleanor Roosevelt

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#10 - 2012-05-05 12:40:20 UTC
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-05-05 12:55:27 UTC
WOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

back to emoting with your cowman wizard
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#12 - 2012-05-05 13:40:39 UTC
I'm amazed I'm the first one here, but can I haz yer stuffz?

/+1 for this thread again, Implying Implications' scalp is exquisite.
Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#13 - 2012-05-05 13:52:03 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
As far as I am concerned it's a broken/malicious game mechanic.


Why? If somebody had just happened to fill that order legitimately mere seconds before you did, it would have been the same exact outcome for all you know. There is never any guarantee that a juicy buy order is still going to be there by the time you get around to filling it, whether the order is legit or set up to fail.
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#14 - 2012-05-05 21:54:10 UTC
Perramas wrote:
This sounds like the old I was scammed scam looking for some bleeding heart to drop a bunch of ISK on you. If I am wrong the OP will be a valuable lesson to the newer players.


Agree I'm not posting this because I want ISK, really I'm bad at managing it as you can tell by my post, this is a warning to others who continue with market trading. BUY orders can be ficticious so trade carefully.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-05 22:07:09 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
If I had any stuff left I would give it away, my time in eve has concluded.

Thanks for the fun times but I have to move on.

Cyndrogen 2009-2012


It sucks that the game is designed in this way. It's true that EVE is a game where you can lose to a thief everything you've built up over years of gameplay in a single moment.

But just because it is that way, doesn't mean it should be that way.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#16 - 2012-05-05 22:08:13 UTC
Yes it should.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-05-05 22:10:41 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Yes it should.


Not really. I'm here because I live science fiction and space themes. If you want thieving, go live in a ghetto - there's plenty of them after all.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#18 - 2012-05-05 22:14:10 UTC
"I'm here because I like the game to be such and such, but the game is also this way. I don't like it this way even though it was designed this way and has been this way since its creation. If you like it this way, you should leave."

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-05-05 22:16:20 UTC
corestwo wrote:
"I'm here because I like the game to be such and such, but the game is also this way. I don't like it this way even though it was designed this way and has been this way since its creation. If you like it this way, you should leave."


And what are you, a reactionary defender of the status quo? P
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#20 - 2012-05-05 22:21:54 UTC  |  Edited by: corestwo
Tell you the truth, I've never scammed in my life. I have all of three suicide ganks to my name, ever. All of my beating up on carebears is done out in 0.0, where they're implicitly consent to PvP, whether they think they have or not.


I still hold that eve should be the way it is, that things like this scam, and thievery in general, and suicide ganking, and so on, should be possible. If you want a game where that kinda stuff isn't allowed, go find one. This one isn't it.

e: Lets be clear here, you're saying that the game, which CCP has designed from day one to allow for the unwary player to lose everything, should not be a game in which you can lose everything. So uh, yeah.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
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