EVE General Discussion

2 post in a row sad but im doing it anyway!

If we are going to get into violence and its negatives then lets do it. I really detest low life scums that hit kids, calling it discipline. I really h8 people who start fights, the damage they can do meaningfully or inadvertently can be life changing/ending but to defend those around you is the pretext for society and is the reason for society funded police, army, navy etc. If you have never needed to stop someone from hurting a loved one then all this would seem odd I guess, then all you need to do is stand in front of your window instead of a mirror.

dude, your not very bright. You just commented on "in a physical sort of way" stating you should "physically"? block someone from doing something or w/e? Or were you "thinking" of blocking someone from hurting someone else?? In some neighborhoods you would be on the ground bleeding or unconscious while someone else is beating up your wife before your thoughts stopped coalescing. To go through something like that and see the accusation in her eyes "why didnt you save me". It happens every day somewhere on this planet and it is very unjust and scars people emotionally and physically. Why would you not defend when you can, im "thinking" there is a word "coward" that fits.

This is still going on? I thought you were pretty much trounced earlier. Now we know you're just a troll.

So far do I know that you attack people, because you h8 them and you do it in the name of love. You excuse it with others being criminals and murders. You want to be forgiven for it, which I did, and you do not have the courage to just tell us what you did.

Do you throw sucker punches at people? Is this what you do?

Actually no and the best way I can explain the way I see and deal with those around me is this, I really h8 abortion but its not my choice. In fact instead of beating up the pregnant women like your are infuring I would because I h8 abortion....get this....I, like many other people, would defend that woman against anyone while she was at the abortion clinic. Why? Because my choice is mine alone and I understand enough of this world to know people have the right to their own choices but sometimes the only way they get to make their choice is if the people around them defend their right to choose.

No disagreement. Fortunately, my experience was back before any of that was really common. I never had to deal with it in that environment, and only now have to deal with it on the streets. Preferably through avoidance. The police might pop by for a visit if you call them, but they never really find them or arrest them for any reason.

Even the ones that attack people or the like rarely get caught until later. Most often, even later they are still walking around, and the court systems are letting people out and dismissing charges because they are backlogged and eliminating cases that they don't feel they have time for.

I know what you're saying though.

The weak will always try to make the strong feel guilty for using their abilities. It is the only weapon they have against something greater than them. In EVE the question often comes up why do you shoot people who do not want to be shot at. What does it matter what another player wants? You even say it yourself; stop concerning yourself with how they play. They do not actually care if you do nothing but mine, they simply enjoy killing you. You are unable to stop them through any means of your ability, and so you call upon the weapon you have, the power of persuasion to convince something greater to help something lesser.

Just play and have fun, personally the fact that others can stop my fun is what makes the fun in this game so rewarding. If you do not like that others do that you should play on Sisi or another single player / non competitive MMO. c:

Everyone does not have the same ability, this is why you see many people dying many times over while others build empires and intricate systems of control. This however is a game and you are not required to put in more effort than you find enjoyable. So my real point still stands.

If you are going to ask them to stop worrying about how others play, you should do the same. It does not matter if you do not like the fact that they enjoy killing you, that is their way to play the game and how they have fun. If you wish to stop them within the confines of the game please do so with your ability.

Although I am sure if you were able to you would have, you are not. So instead you rely on the tactic that all others who do not wish to earn the right to do anything. They ask for it from those of greater ability, trying to use faulty reasoning and guilt to get what they want.

Again, it does not matter at all how much ability you have in EVE, it is just a game. But do not use it as an excuse to try to extort some kind of guilt response from those who use greater effort to achieve more.

Mr whitehound the laws were such that "very physical" meant exactly that. You can not start a fight or be overly intoxicated and be allowed to remain on the premises. So the way you are removed is through hiring specific people with a respectable set of skills and the way those particular people are required by law to remove unruly patrons from there is by using as much force as is necessary e.g. standing next to them asking politely for them to leave, escalating to a hand at their elbow or shoulder repeating politely for them to leave, escalating to applying guided physical pressure to give them the idea its not a request, escalating to pushing them towards the door while holding onto them firmly, escalating to bodily picking the person up or dragging them kicking and screaming. The idea is the law dictates what we can or can not do period. Lastly I did enjoy throwing some people out because doing so meant everyone else could relax and enjoy themselves while the drunken idiots get to be drunken and idiotic some where else.

Oops forgot to add if the patron that is being physically ejected (being physical by the warranted escalation) decides that even though we are legally required and funnily enough specifically there to do that very thing if needed, sometimes they decide to save face they need to beat on the bouncer. Now if it was known that that bouncer did not defend himself then the visual deterrent he used to be ceased being and leaves the door open for more unruly behavior then already being dealt with o.0

I can't be bothered to "grief" people most of the time, but it's kind of like seeing someone get hit in the nuts. It's funny every single time.

No one wants to get hit in the nuts, ever. Everyone laugh when someone else takes a shot to the balls, even you. Do you want to kick someone in the nuts? Probably not. Do you still laugh when it happens, yes.

That's why people greif.

Edit: Since it's a game no one is getting hurt, so all the better.