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Moving to Low sec, should I join the FW?

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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
#1 - 2012-05-05 13:39:34 UTC
I plan to spend more of my time in low sec with setting up a jump clone other there.
It will be a huge system with a mix of low/high and with several zones of FW.

I plan essentially to make some exploration but also pvp, without making a lot a FW missions (even not at all).
I will be in a system where I can expect to meet nearly only ennemies.

I am a missionner/trader and begins with solo pvp.
I am prepared to lose a lot of ships and have ISK to replace them (even if logisitics is about to be a pain).

What would be your advice? Should I join the FW to have more targets?

[u]Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.[/u]

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Fleet Warpsujarento
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-05 15:23:11 UTC
Wouldn't bother, no.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-05 16:16:57 UTC
You can't use FW agents without being in FW. That said, I think you should. FW is great fun, and you have the benefit of regular pew, some support if you're aggressed, and (if it hasn't been said already) FW LP stores seriously rock.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#4 - 2012-05-05 16:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
If the changes go through as proposed Faction War will be allot more like sov null sec. It used to be a great option for casual players who liked to pvp. It might possibly still be, but it definitely is becoming more "serious business" for people who want "hard core."

edit: I do allot of solo pvp too and it is becoming much worse for that - but we are so rare no one cares about our opinion hence the cycle of fewer and fewer solo pvp options will continue. If you are joining now you may want to move yoru stuff outside of the actual faction war zone so you don't have to move it again with an alt.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Mister Kwong
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-05-05 17:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Kwong
FW post Inferno will be tough for newbies. It's already tough as it is because most militia corporations won't take you in due to fear of spies. So now newbies will be forced to roam from hisec and look for fights that are 10 systems away. There's no point in them basing their ships at the front lines for fear of being locked out. It's one thing for the vets who can afford alts but if you're still young in the game, then CCP's proposal to have you create an alt to get your stuff is unfair to you.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-05 20:10:20 UTC
I would say it depends. If you are going to live in lowsec, then sure give it a try and see how you like it. If you are still going to do a lot of stuff in highsec and don't have alts, then don't bother. It is too much hassle to always look over your shoulder and being effectively cut off from half of highsec is a pain without alts.

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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#7 - 2012-05-05 22:58:24 UTC
Yes but only if you commit to it, dont join then live in highsec. FW is Low Sec or nothing. Also Don't join and then join fleets from Amarr to buy the right ships. Find a home, set up with at lease 40 ships and defend it. If your a lone pilot join a corp. Stilling in the FW NPC corp is not gonna help you.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2012-05-05 23:17:01 UTC
It's worth the experience, but so is pure piracy or simply going it alone and fighting in lower empire.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2012-05-06 11:13:46 UTC
FW is broken and has been the past several years, come summer it will still be broken albeit stupidly lucrative.

Piracy on the other hand is what you make of it, contains no grinding, little in the way of boredom and can be more lucrative than anything in Eve.

If ISK is what you want then go FW, always room for more on the farm ...
If PvP is what you want the go pirate (or RvB) ...
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#10 - 2012-05-06 11:32:46 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
FW is broken and has been the past several years, come summer it will still be broken albeit stupidly lucrative.

Piracy on the other hand is what you make of it, contains no grinding, little in the way of boredom and can be more lucrative than anything in Eve.

If ISK is what you want then go FW, always room for more on the farm ...
If PvP is what you want the go pirate (or RvB) ...



FW and piracy can go hand in hand :)
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#11 - 2012-05-06 12:48:50 UTC
Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:
Wouldn't bother, no.


This person is a spy alt for gallente miltiia, so if he gives you any advice take it with grain of salt.
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-06 13:07:56 UTC
Ank Parkor wrote:

I am a missionner/trader and begins with solo pvp.
I am prepared to lose a lot of ships and have ISK to replace them (even if logisitics is about to be a pain).

What would be your advice? Should I join the FW to have more targets?

It is much tougher to be a trader in FW unless you just trade with one empire. The opposing navy shoots you and you will lose faction standing when you gain your promotions in militia (every 1.0 base standing with your militia corp) and when you shoot enemy structures running FW missions.

Normal missions may become less risky after the expansion if the station lockouts apply in hi sec. Right now, you have to be careful to not get ganked running them.

But the LP rewards they want to add and the increase in targets make up for it, in my opinion.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.

Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
#13 - 2012-05-06 13:20:33 UTC
Thanks for your replies.

So joining the FW as a solo player is a bad idea.
I follow your advices and will stick to standard solo pvp for the beginning.

It's time to train for a blockade runner Smile

[u]Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.[/u]

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Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#14 - 2012-05-06 15:21:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Cromwell Savage
Ank Parkor wrote:
Thanks for your replies.

So joining the FW as a solo player is a bad idea.
I follow your advices and will stick to standard solo pvp for the beginning.

It's time to train for a blockade runner Smile


I wouldn't say joining "solo" is a "bad" idea. If you do, just don't expect the red carpet rolled out for you just because you are now "in the militia".

Just like any other corp/alliance - those in FW have been flying together for a while and have certain expectations so the chances of a complete "noob" to FW being allowed "in" is slim to none. There are corps that specifically look for new players to teach them FW - but there is a lot more to it than "missions and orange stars"...

There's a lot of talk about what is/is not "broken" with FW - but one thing that is often overlooked is that regardless of the RP/dull-sec inspired mechanics, FW is a free, 24/7 Eve-wide wardec against 2 factions. Can't be beat for GCC-free pvp anywhere at anytime (and you can still go pie as much as you want Twisted or roam/dabble in dull-sec Roll). But, like I said above, FW corps are no different than any other, so don't think that you will just roll around all day with some false utopian experience of perfect "1v1" fights at the flip of a coin. You still need to know your target and your systems just like everywhere else. There are 1v1's to be had, but FW corpies have friends too - even the squids P.

One thing I would caution though is with the recent updates that may be coming FW's way - i.e. the horribly flawed station docking denial mechanic. With that coming - I would probably hold off on any moves into lo-sec (as a member of FW) until you get a better picture of how things will play out/stabilize. Would be a massive pain to move into a nice lo-sec choke point only to have to move right after this "update" hits...
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-07 05:32:57 UTC
If you are wanting to do the solo roaming with some exploration on the side honestly just dive right in and move to npc nullsec. More lucretive isk wise (if your not planning to join FW in lowsec), and in general npc null is less blobby than sov null or FW lowsec.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#16 - 2012-05-07 14:01:58 UTC
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
If you are wanting to do the solo roaming with some exploration on the side honestly just dive right in and move to npc nullsec. More lucretive isk wise (if your not planning to join FW in lowsec), and in general npc null is less blobby than sov null or FW lowsec.



I think this will likely be the case. Now that ccp made fw worse for those who aren't interested in blobsec, npc null sec just became a relatively better option.


Seriously op I would say that if you are not interested in blob warfare eve is not for you.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#17 - 2012-05-07 14:40:43 UTC
Yes, you should join Faction Warefare. However I propose that you look for a noob friendly FW-Corp (e.g. like ours) instead of trying to do it as solo player. As solo player it is much harder to learn the ropes.