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I too would be dissapointed to find out one of my friends did rmt

This has to be a troll. You cannot possibly be this stupid.

Unless of course, someone else switched your computer on for you.....

******. How would you feel when you cant visit CNN or Amnesty International. When your government desides for you what you can and cannot watch on the internet. Think before posting this drivel.

Confirming that there are heavy amounts of racism in this thread.

Yeah, we know how well that worked out the last time anyone tried. What with tanks and guns and all sorts of other nonsense. Actually, given that, it's almost hard to believe people would voice an opinion over a ban.

Strictly speaking, I can't say I have an opinion about this, but I do understand that CCP is obviously unlikely to be banning all accounts associated with a specific VPN ID, or there would be more bans, or just less players managing to trial and or get an account. If they can get in through that VPN, then it is likely this is not how CCP is processing these bans.

That means they are either very legitimate, or some players are getting caught in the crossfire by associating with RMTs. A couple million ISK transfer is no reason for a ban in and of itself, but transferring deadspace loot in space is, as is any number of other things that is done specifically by RMT.

tl;dr: Don't associate with RMT, and earn your way up like everybody else. Western players don't just hand out any amount of ISK in most cases. Status quo is: You want it, you earn it; or essentially so in any case.

I have helped players in Corp with me as part of a training and enticement offer, but I've not done the same for many others. In fact, I've only ever really done that in one case, but it was very limited and only because he was inexperienced but a friend of a friend and a kid.

Technically speaking, he was supposed to pay me back but he kept losing ships and it took him a long time to adapt to the game. Eventually, he just tried to scam the loots out of me while he stockpiled inventory, tried to steal from the corp, and made efforts to get me to give him ISK in other ways. It was tolerated for the most part but never entertained after that.

Frankly it wasn't a big deal, but the point is I don't see anything that may seem to mirror RMT activities there. That kind of activity shouldn't result in plkayers being banned, and if it did-as someone already mentioned-we wouldn't have that many players at all. Of course, this was all before Team Security and CCP Screegs really started cracking down and working out their anti-botting measures and combating RMT.

I'm not sure how those activities would have registered in light of the new system, but I don't think it would really be any different. Maybe a flag pop-up now and then because of an ISK transfer, but otherwise not likely to cause an alarm. RMT typically do their business by other means and in much higher quantities as far as I know.

Either way, I'm glad for Team Security and all the anti-RMT measures and efforts to stop botting that are being done now. It might be that players screw up the game well enough on their own with market domination attempts like Burn Jita and Hulkageddon, but at least they are legitimate attempts to wreck the market and reap profit in game, rather than some guy or group of people with most likely criminal affiliations trying to profit out of game from game related activities.

That's just the way it is. No system is perfect, but at least they are trying. Chances are, they got it down to a fine science by now and occaisionally have little burps and hiccups in the process where undeserving people get banned.

Of course, unless you are an RMT, the ban is temporary in most cases as far as I know, so you have your chance to stop affiliating yourself with those individuals and play the game properly. It's a good chance they are just trying to recruit fartmers anyway, and if you are a farmer, you are an RMT, and we all know what they deserve.

Maybe not as culpable, but still a cog in the wheel that runs round and tramples all us regular players in the process of ruining our game.

Using the "Stereotypes" to pre-judge other groups of people is called "Discrimination".

Freedom is not free, you earn it with blood. How many Arabs died in Libya and how long did they fight to topple Gaddafi?? How many are dieing in Syria right now and how long have they been fighting? How many died standing up to the old guard Soviets for years? Tienanmen was what a one day protest? They do not want to have to pay the price for freedom so they are not free.

blame your country men for making the stereotype. kinda like how russians are looked down on because they bott as well.

I miss my good old chinese friends :(

Feel free to discuss where the GMs went wrong, but don't post the evidence. That's a good one.



Dude, I wouldn't name names but because I was there when they met and I've seen their private chat log, so I can give you more detail about that transaction.

The tengu owner who found that complex is one with admirable farming and pvp skill. He started his farming accounts only 6 month ago(named after members of a US ex-first family, You'll know them when you see them in local), and brought his 35B -10 sec 100M SP PVP toon last month without selling one single plex(He sold his tengu to a contractor friend just to get that last billion before the day of transfer though). I just received one of his show-off kill mail 5 seconds ago, so I'm pretty sure he's still alive and kicking, and not banned for RMT.

He didn't find that 4/10 complex because he was not at the system, his poor friend did and called him there. And the loot was a Pithium C type medium shield booster. So the tengu guy, in no lack of isk(in his new toon), decided to share some of that(145M, less than half) with the poor new guy. I'm pretty sure they had the detailed explanation in the description of that transaction because I saw them discussed about it in length. And the new guy still got banned.

I don't see any logic in this.
First, it takes two to RMT, but the banned guy found himself to be the only one victim here.
Second, farming on trail Alt to support the main was against EULA I know, but I don't see how giving isk to a new guy can harm the game in any way.
And third. It's obviously wrong to ban someone just because he's new and has some isk when he did nothing against EULA. CCP should ban him if that isk is sold or on sale, but not before that.




If something is so easy, they would have already done it.