Ships & Modules

I know it probably depends more on who you run with and what they like to fly, but what are the ship roles that Amarr are competitive with? I have a Cov Ops alt / Indy / mission char that I want to turn into a PVPer. He can fly your everyday tackling rifter too, but I've got most of the points invested into Amarr stuff. I'm interested in trying everything, but I'd like to stick to battlecruiser and lower hulls (the idea of getting large energy turret V for T2 kinda puts me off BS level stuff), with an eventual goal of strategic cruisery.

Amarr ships in general typically fit into the "gank and tank" role.

You'll find that the lowly Punisher is a great ship for some solo work and the Harbinger is a welcome addition to any armor gang/fleet... both having a good balance of tank and firepower.

The Maller and Prophecy are also good ships... but don't really shine in any role outside of "bait." However, some people do "meta-tank" the ships to great effect (i.e. people fit the ships for "maximum gankage," relying on the widely held preconception that the Maller and Prophecy are "uber-tanking" ships to dissuade people from shooting in the first place).

There's also the oddball Amarrian ship, the Arbitrator (and its T2 variants). It can employ debilitating Ewar to great effect in both solo and in gangs. However, understand that you'll usually be set as "primary target" in such a ship.

Amarr really shines in the battleship department, and if you are not looking to train those... Train minmatar

No love for the sentinel?

Amarr?
As for someone who can fly all subcaps - its basically only slicer, guardian and abaddon that offer something more. Maybe zealot, but i havent seen armor hac gang out for a long time and sniping hac gangs are dead since arty buff. Everything else is from average to meh /im talking about subcaps/.


Stick with minmatar then - this could change with winter expansion... but i dont think so.
Also if you want to get more specific advices, you have to be more specific about your pvp enviroment etc.

The BS line rocks, bricks that spit out a nice hunk of dps. I'll let others get into these as they are not my favorite to fly.

Curse rocks the field and is personally my favorite amarr ship no FC will ever turn this ship away, if he does find a new FC. Pilgrim is solid aswell if you like a lil adventure. Requires Recon V which is a downside for most pilots but best skill in the game

Zealot, beastly ship, armor, shield, nano fit it, you'll find it puts the hurt down in just about any gang. Also next to legion king of the aHac (guess it'd be queen now?)

Sacrilage, very fun ship, active/passive tank, it tanks better than it pews but its a effective ship and should not be overlooked.

Harbinger, Its the workhorse for a reason, this ship is has a very nice balance of tank vs. gank and can be utalized better both ways, but if your going for super tank the prophicy is that way.

Devoter - Brick in Space, best armor HIC in the game, easily fit 200k ehp with cyno and 2 perma points. (Suprize)

Legion, Uh oh, the legion, it sucks, failship, failship, failship. /end sarcasm. There is a great debate on this ship and its sucking. I personally own several legions and feel they all have their uses in very niche spots. They'll be outshined on paper by the other 3 t3's 9/10 times. but in practive knowing how to fit your ship for a specific gang, what your support is, what you need, this ship can get very very nasty with decent dps and a buffer to sick the titanic with. But there are hundreds of posts out there on this topic. google it.

Damnation, brick in space with OMFG FC loves the armor bonus. 450k ehp brick available with FC love in hand.

Absolution, evil ship, very strong dps with room for another huge buffer or active tank. not fast and if you want the chance to run after an engagement has started minmatar is that way, this beast is slow.

Slicer/Vengeance/Punisher, are great frigs, there are some very typical fits out on battleclinic for these, the punisher and vengeance can be decent tacklers but the inties do that better.

I'd offer advice on the remaining ships that I didnt mention but I find that what I left off destroyer, interceptor, interdictor, cruiser I feel minmatar feels better on the whole. Oh almost forgot the arbitrator if you want fun cheap pvp look at the standard battleclinic fits. Hope that answers some questions.

You cant argue with people, that consider punisher or even maller and prophecy "good" ships...

Yeah, its every fcs wet dream to primary the ship with highest ehp on field and non existant dps/utility over ship that actually contributes somehow to the enemy gang.

So for "tanking" role in pvp.

Only problem is, its actually 720dps/75k ehp vs 420dps/85k ehp with 1 less midslot.

Confirming, that trying to prove how terrible and broken are punisher, maller, prophecy etc. to someone who has absolutely no idea about pvp and pulls random numbers from unknown places /at best/ is waste of time.

It was only me, sven hammerston and fon revedhort who answered OPs question. Only roles where amarr ships are competitive is brick dps, logistics and in some special situations energy neutralizing. And slicer that can compete with most frigs.

Investing skillpoints into amarr ships if your goal is flying bcs and down - ship classes that are used JUST because they are faster and more agile than usual plated bricks, is waste. Train minmatar, train for range control, train for selectable damage type, best tracking, top alphas, cap independent weapons, comfortable fittings and highest versatility.

You wont ever regret it.