Science & Industry

This worked! Thank you! :)

I can only say to try again later. Sourceforge can be a bit flakey at times.

Hi, been using your progrm for a while now. Great tool.

But since some time it cant not fetch SVR data anymore. it's quite cruicial for me when searching for something new to manufacture. Been looking at the market myself the last days hoping it would fix itself, but it has not.

I get the error:

"Unable to update all Price volume data at this time."
can press OK and then I get a list but without SVR ratio.

Best regards,
Suni

How long do you reckon it will be down for? I had this error for a week now. maybe longer but thats when I used it again after a few weeks.

Said he's looking at it but I'm not sure when. It's really useful data so hope it's up soon.

Edit: error message says this weekend.

It's since past week that I try to download it with no success, as far as I can see it seems to be a problem only on ISH Project , I tried other sourceforge project and was able to download them, very strange.

Cheers,
Skyfar

this one : http://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/files/latest/download?source=files

thank you

cheers,
Skyfar

Hi,

i already asked this once, but how are the RE cost calculated in IPH? It seems a bit off from my calculations, since it only includes the fail % chance shown, but not the general 25% chance to get a specific subsystem?

So as a example, it shows a total cost for a 10 BPC of "Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay", using a malfunctioning relic as 86Mill for the whole copy, but this only takes into account that the RE job has a 55% fail chance. However actually getting this specific BPC only has a 25% base chance at all, so its more like 55% * 25% = 13,75% chance to get a specific one. This ofc increases the RE cost and should be factored in. This means instead of the shown 86Mill, it actually would take around 8 tries to produce one BPC of the wanted type, which in comparison increase the RE cost from 86M to around 400M.

I would like a option that simply adds this extra base probability % and factors it into the costs and resulting profit, IPH.
I'm also not 100% sure we can even multiply the chances, since the 2 events are not fully independent?

bye Andy


PS: As "valid" alternative, multiply the result with the listed "Subsystem group profitability", so at least we factor in that even if u don't get the wanted subsystem u at least get something "profitable" that can set-off your RE cost. We still would want to set some minimum "profitability" value, since 1mill profit might be "profitable", but not in comparison to the time/RE cost's. So i would suggest some sort of settable "minimum profitability" field, that will alter the profitability % value.

Yikes, you didn't have to do all that work! I'll see if I can get that fixed but I'm going on travel tomorrow so might not get to it until next week.

Andy, see my reply below. Think it's a pretty simple fix.

On the RE part I think it's just simply multiplying the RE cost (which is now for 1 success) by 4. This would take into account the fact that on average, if you run a large number of REs you will get an 25% of each resulting BPC. So basically, assume you need to run the RE 4 times before you get a success.

Using the average profitability isn't really going to show you what you would get for that specific subsystem, but is good to compare for the line as a whole. For example, if you want to make a profit doing RE, you might choose the subsystems that have 100% profitability over ones that do not. That's the reason I added it actually. I jumped on the tengu craze (stupidly) and ended up with 6 offensive subsystems that no one used. When I compared all of them, I found out only one was profitable and realized that. Assuming you won't build for a loss, then the total RE cost can be captured for a profitable item by multiplying it by 4.

On gas mining, yes I agree. I originally started the mining tab and included gas mining but it's so different I left it out for now (plus the tab itself became more complex than I anticipated). So I have it on the list. I think with the setup I have it shouldn't be hard to do. Just gotta find the time!