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A simple way to defeat suicide gankers that attack miners in belts.
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Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-04 11:44:42 UTC
To do this you will need:

Your mining vessel at least lightly tanked.
An alt in a noob ship.
If you cannot field two characters at once ask a corp mate to do this part.

Pick a fairly fresh belt you want to mine in.
Set up your mining vessel in this belt.
Bring in the alt and with a token attempt have him attack your mining vessel.
Concord responds and blows up the alt.
Concord sits in your belt as a body guard for a few hours after that while you mine away to your hearts content.
Your whole corp can mine in there for that matter.
Concord leaves?
Have the alt attack again.

If everyone would do this it would basically shut down Schoolyardbullyageddon.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#2 - 2012-05-04 11:50:19 UTC
You do realize that Concord can be drawn out from those belts by gankers using the same tactic you provided, right? If anything, you have effectively helped the gankers prepare the system.

Adapt or Die
Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-05-04 11:58:38 UTC
A simple re-attack by the alt fixes that.
The gankers arent going to d1ck around in that belt all day waiting for a target.
They will move on.
Miners in their home system will have a clear advantage.
Magnus Madhammer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-04 12:11:02 UTC
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#5 - 2012-05-04 12:17:01 UTC
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2012-05-04 12:34:18 UTC
OR ... leave hisec.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#7 - 2012-05-04 12:40:02 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.


It's an exploit. Kind of like how gankers can't summon concord elsewhere to gain extra time, Miners can't summon concord to live.


This could be fun.
Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-05-04 12:41:46 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
OR ... leave hisec.



I don't know why you people keep saying this. You really have no idea.
Its ridiculous to think some of us would give up the huge network of things we have going in empire.
I lived on 0.0 for two years.
The politics and the egotistical fleet commanders and the endless list of alliance rules suck monkey butt.
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#9 - 2012-05-04 12:42:00 UTC
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.


It's an exploit. Kind of like how gankers can't summon concord elsewhere to gain extra time, Miners can't summon concord to live.




Seems like gankers have a whole lot more going for them than miners.

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-04 12:42:53 UTC
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.


It's an exploit. Kind of like how gankers can't summon concord elsewhere to gain extra time, Miners can't summon concord to live.





Show me where CCP has stated its an exploit.
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#11 - 2012-05-04 12:51:09 UTC
Chris Cooley wrote:
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.


It's an exploit. Kind of like how gankers can't summon concord elsewhere to gain extra time, Miners can't summon concord to live.





Show me where CCP has stated its an exploit.


I would if I could be bothered.

Find it yourself.

This could be fun.
Vincenzo DiFrancesco
The Fancy Hats Corporation
#12 - 2012-05-04 13:09:05 UTC
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Chris Cooley wrote:
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Magnus Madhammer wrote:
Please do so. I will make sure to report the exploit. Roll


To my knowledge, the only exploitive aspect to this is if the alt-in-noobship character gets Biomassed to shed them of negative security status.


It's an exploit. Kind of like how gankers can't summon concord elsewhere to gain extra time, Miners can't summon concord to live.





Show me where CCP has stated its an exploit.


I would if I could be bothered.

Find it yourself.


You'll find it in Goons' Jita Hellcamp, where they used that tactic constantly, while being allowed to by CCP. Believe me, if it were an exploit being used to that degree in that location there would be a lot of Goonies on EVE-vacation right now.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2012-05-04 13:16:01 UTC
Chris Cooley wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
OR ... leave hisec.



I don't know why you people keep saying this. You really have no idea.



1. 20m SP in industry.
2. I mine fairly regularly


Chris Cooley wrote:
Its ridiculous to think some of us would give up the huge network of things we have going in empire.


Lowsec is still a part of empire space. Blink

Chris Cooley wrote:
I lived on 0.0 for two years.
The politics and the egotistical fleet commanders and the endless list of alliance rules suck monkey butt.


I never said anything about nullsec. Blink

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#14 - 2012-05-04 13:24:11 UTC
FINALLY someone comes up with this. I've been sitting on it for months.

If you see Concord disappear, warp to a safe or dock up because you know a gank is incoming.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-05-04 13:51:15 UTC
Chris Cooley wrote:
To do this you will need:

Your mining vessel at least lightly tanked.
An alt in a noob ship.
If you cannot field two characters at once ask a corp mate to do this part.

Pick a fairly fresh belt you want to mine in.
Set up your mining vessel in this belt.
Bring in the alt and with a token attempt have him attack your mining vessel.
Concord responds and blows up the alt.
Concord sits in your belt as a body guard for a few hours after that while you mine away to your hearts content.
Your whole corp can mine in there for that matter.
Concord leaves?
Have the alt attack again.

If everyone would do this it would basically shut down Schoolyardbullyageddon.

This is a borderline exploit and reflects the typical carebear entitlement in its desire to have the game protect you so you don't have to learn what you're doing.
Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-05-04 13:54:43 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
Chris Cooley wrote:
To do this you will need:

Your mining vessel at least lightly tanked.
An alt in a noob ship.
If you cannot field two characters at once ask a corp mate to do this part.

Pick a fairly fresh belt you want to mine in.
Set up your mining vessel in this belt.
Bring in the alt and with a token attempt have him attack your mining vessel.
Concord responds and blows up the alt.
Concord sits in your belt as a body guard for a few hours after that while you mine away to your hearts content.
Your whole corp can mine in there for that matter.
Concord leaves?
Have the alt attack again.

If everyone would do this it would basically shut down Schoolyardbullyageddon.

This is a borderline exploit and reflects the typical carebear entitlement in its desire to have the game protect you so you don't have to learn what you're doing.




Cry me a river....
Sucks to be the schoolyard bully now doesnt it?
Get a real job......
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#17 - 2012-05-04 13:56:29 UTC
Chris Cooley wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Chris Cooley wrote:
To do this you will need:

Your mining vessel at least lightly tanked.
An alt in a noob ship.
If you cannot field two characters at once ask a corp mate to do this part.

Pick a fairly fresh belt you want to mine in.
Set up your mining vessel in this belt.
Bring in the alt and with a token attempt have him attack your mining vessel.
Concord responds and blows up the alt.
Concord sits in your belt as a body guard for a few hours after that while you mine away to your hearts content.
Your whole corp can mine in there for that matter.
Concord leaves?
Have the alt attack again.

If everyone would do this it would basically shut down Schoolyardbullyageddon.

This is a borderline exploit and reflects the typical carebear entitlement in its desire to have the game protect you so you don't have to learn what you're doing.




Cry me a river....
Sucks to be the schoolyard bully now doesnt it?
Get a real job......




Awww... Poor caerbaer. :( Turns out his brilliant way of avoiding ganks happens to be an exploit.

Mad?

This could be fun.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-05-04 14:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Chris Cooley wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Chris Cooley wrote:
To do this you will need:

Your mining vessel at least lightly tanked.
An alt in a noob ship.
If you cannot field two characters at once ask a corp mate to do this part.

Pick a fairly fresh belt you want to mine in.
Set up your mining vessel in this belt.
Bring in the alt and with a token attempt have him attack your mining vessel.
Concord responds and blows up the alt.
Concord sits in your belt as a body guard for a few hours after that while you mine away to your hearts content.
Your whole corp can mine in there for that matter.
Concord leaves?
Have the alt attack again.

If everyone would do this it would basically shut down Schoolyardbullyageddon.

This is a borderline exploit and reflects the typical carebear entitlement in its desire to have the game protect you so you don't have to learn what you're doing.




Cry me a river....
Sucks to be the schoolyard bully now doesnt it?
Get a real job......


Please. Suicide ganking is beneath me. Don't lump me in with those high sec carebears. Just because I think one side is doing it wrong doesn't mean I don't have the same opinion of the other.
Chris Cooley
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-05-04 14:02:36 UTC
Its an exploit because some wet behind the ears says n00b says so????
LMAO!

You smell like a Griefageddon alt.
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#20 - 2012-05-04 14:04:01 UTC
Chris Cooley wrote:
Its an exploit because some wet behind the ears says n00b says so????
LMAO!

You smell like a Griefageddon alt.


Awww... I'm glad you took the time to smell me.

I like it when carebears gets so close they can smell me, makes it so much easier to kick them.

This could be fun.
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