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The tags are actually a nice aspect of the lp store. The lp stores used to be one of the better self balancing methods of pay for pve in eve.

However I think there were 2 hamfisted things that ccp has done to throw this nice system out of whack:

1) They increased the faction mod drops in null sec which in turn can drive down the prices of the lp store items since they compete.

2) They gave incursion runners "super lp" that they can use in any lp store thereby destroying the self balancing aspect of the lp store.

The items in the lp store have stayed about the same and maybe rose up in price a bit. But the tags have increased in price more than the increase on in the item price. Hence the profit margins are slimmer. The reason the tags have increased in price is the demand for them has gone up due to incursion super lp but the supply has not.

Now the supply of these tags may start to go up from faction war and more people taking these missions but because of the huge amount of "super lp" incursion farmers have accumulated the lp store will remain a place with very tight margins. Not only that the tags have a limit as to how high they can reach because of the faction drops in null sec. Dread guristas shield hardeners keep Caldari navy ones from increasing very much. And this is what keeps the value of tags low.


Normally what would happen is if the tags go up in price but the items aren't going up in price much you could run missions for a different corp. But incursion runners get so much direct isk on top of their "ultimate lp" that they continue to dampen the best lp markets.

remove tags completely
let them drop in FW players

if i have 200 kills and i get killed my wreck should have a tag depending on my faction
make it dependant on ship class or market value of the kill...
make the amount random 1-5 tags.

Perhaps people should scoop more tags in missions now that they are so expensive? Shouldn't players be rewarded with expensive tags in return for losing access to certain high sec regions?

The only problem I have with the LP store is that the tag requirements are enormous for some items - which I guess means CCP wants those items to be for vanity items than for utility.

But I would love to regularly fit up Fed Navy mods on my Fed navy comet...

Good points! I feel that by just allowing people to choose either anti-pirate OR anti-faction missions (or the current mix of the two, as at present), it will greatly increase the tag availability and thereby make using the LP a more pleasant occurance. I also might not totally object if CCP raised the tag requirements of the stores slightly, to compensate for the slightly increased supply, as right now my main gripe with the system is that simply too few anti-faction missions are on offer (and they are also generally slanted against the wrong enemy of the faction!).

Choices are good

Bit late to the fray with this, but why do you say that? What would you replace them with?

As Michael Jackson would say..."Make that change"

I sincerely believe that this issue will solve a lot of problems, if implemented :)

Thanks

The thing is, though, is that there are quite a lot of people who have said 'to hell with my opposing faction's standings, I just love Enemies Abound (or w/e)', and don't decline anti-faction missions. Some of these are RPers, to be sure, but I can't be the only person to have noticed that, once you hoover all of those tags from 'Smash the Supplier' up, the collective pay (including loot, as well as everything else) is often substantially better than a similarly sized lvl4 mission. It is for this reason that I love anti-faction missions.

I'm not 100% convinced that this would just be another gushing ISK faucet. What happens if, as you say, the number of people running them drops, and the price of faction equipment goes up? Well, surely in a sandbox environment like ours, quick thinking people will recognise this and move into doing faction missions to take advantage of the premium that tags would now command. Presumably this would continue until equilibrium had been achieved.

You also said that people might not have to wait at all before declining missions, and they might therefore just mission away without any impediment. However, the reality of the situation is that - provided your faction standings are high enough - you can essentially decline mission after mission with really negligible faction hits. I would also say that perhaps mission travel times are a bigger factor than declining missions, but that's just my opinion and not really relavent here :)

Thank you for your input so far!