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Ha ha, exactly! People who are thinking this is just a lag meter seem like they are missing a very important part of their brains.

Time dilation seems like a very creative way to mitigate lag issues like de-sync or delayed module response... good thinking CCP :)

afaik, and this was talked about at great length on the old forums, it will only appear when the amount of calls to the 'space/combat simulating' engine of eve gets too much for it to process immediately. Im still not tooo sure how it will cope with a big fleet jumping into a system thats already dilated, but thats for a mass test to trial out.

markets shouldnt be affected.

the aggression timers i believe will be dynamically lengthened depending on the severity of the time dilation. this works because all areas of pvp (or navigation/combat) get affected to the same degree. So activating that aggression and getting out of system will take longer than normal. And respectively, concord will probably react as swiftly as it does now but in slow motion, same as you.


TBH i think its best to describe TiDi's effects on things as 'True' timescale effects, and 'simulated' timescale effects.

ie. true DPS is the real DPS ur ship is doing in a dilated system based on a RL second of time, and 'simulated DPS' is the 'on-paper' or eft dps you more commonly use and remember from things like Eve Fitting Tool.

(i used DPS here cause most people will know what it is, and also because it has a now changable part... the 'S' for second)

Concerns:
1. This does not fix the underlying problem; all it is will do is make people bring even more numbers.. and then we will end up back where we started (I give it less then a month).
2. Dilation for players is different to lag, HOW???

The only permanent fix is to:
1. Make alliances split up their forces.
2. Force alliances to stay smaller.
3. End huge NAPfests.
4. Make the blobber pay for it with lag. We are all aware of the game's limitations - Exploting server lag is cheating and should be handled as such.


Thanks for trying, but this was just a bad idea from the start.

Lag = UNCONTROLLED degradation of the server, missed requests ie the enemy guns fire and yours don't, modules stick, free cap for active hardeners, you dying on a blackscreen and never loading grid.

TiDi = Everyone gets a FAIR SHARE of the server time. All requests are serviced - ie your guns fire at the same rate as everyone else, modules cycle slowly at the same rate as everyone else, no free cap for your active modules, slow loading into system but no dying on a black screen and waking in station.

I.e. its completely different.

No it doesnt "remove" lag but it does give us the best "fix" that you can expect.

I enjoy it enough to quote it up again so more people see it ;)

These are good words that deserve to be read again by anyone who's still unclear on why Time Dilation helps.

Because I want to convey the slowdown to the player. In essense, make space *feel* slower when it really *is* slower. Do note that it's only a couple UI elements plus the camera, and I might go back on the camera one.

Fair share of server time??? Seems to me a fair share should favor the ones not exploting the node. eg: slow down the larger blob more.


Do you honestly believe that people won't just bring more people, leading to dilation + server lag anyway? No matter what you do, alliances are going to max things out. Always have, always will. Unfortunately this is going to do increase alliance's need to NAP and bloat even more.


This said, I appreciate the effort being put in, and this is better then nothing. But why not a permanent fix? Some alliances wouldn't like it initially (namely, the same ones that are usually the problem), but they need to adapt for the good of the game instead of exploiting the server limitations.

Fix the source of the problem. The blobs. You don't need 1000 (or 2000 with this dilation system) people firing on a single target. Change the game mechanics to split them over multiple targets (optimally in multiple grids or even systems). Change the mechanics to make NAPfests a disadvantage. Change the game to make alliances pay a price for becoming bloated.

Fix the cause, don't just patch up the symptoms. This is exactly why eve has always had lag issues.

*Addition* Won't slowing time also make it easier to react to enemy orders? What effect is this going to have on battles?

CCP Veritas, another quick question:
if the server decides to dilate the time, it obviously has to communicate this to the client as well. Because of this, for a short while the simulation speed of the client and the server will be different. Isn't this going to introduce some sort of desync for fast-moving ships?

I'm curious as to whether it will solve the problem of bombs travelling 100km+ or not moving at all in extreme lag.