EVE General Discussion

how about you set a log in trap and have some comms up. it be the best way to get someone.

told ccp this would happen.

if carebears can leave and join anytime then so can pvpers.

blame ccp for this one.

Wardeccer : This is not fair! We are at war against you and you left your Corp to dodge the fight ! Play this game the way it was meant to be played ! There must be PvP in Highsec!! This is EVE !!

Indy : I'm going to play this game the way I wish to play the game, by my rules, not by yours. You play by your rules, I'll play by my rules. Go wardec another PVP Corp. This is EVE.

Wardeccer : (Posts on the forums, title "CCP - WE NEED TO STOP THE CORP HOPPING"). This is not fair!! I want to play EVE and I want to KILL others, I want peeveepee! This is what EVE is about!! FIX IT!!

Indy : I don't want to be at war every day of my EVE playing life. I want to crunch rocks, I want to do missions, I want to explore some of this vast universe. In other words, I want to play MY way, not YOUR way.

Wardeccer : HTFU !! EVE is not for you!

Indy : I pay my monthly subs too. If you can play the way you want to play, go play in areas which have your gameplay in mind, for example, lowsec and nullsec. Wardec other PVP-specialist Corps. Try realistic killboard padding, shoot targets that shoot back at you with the very real danger of you losing out in the battle. HTFU!!

Wardeccer : EVE is PVP, it is not safe anywhere! I can shoot what I want, when I want, I declare war on your Corp!

Indy : Nothing better than fearbear tears.

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See, this ball is going to bounce backwards and forwards. Corps who are wardecced and use Corp-hopping to evade or entrap another Corp, the wardeccers leave them very few other options, other than not logging in at all. This is EVE afterall, right ?

Until such time EVE has been fixed to make it very difficult for wardec-happy Corps to mindlessly wardec "defenseless" Corps, even in Highsec, there will be lots of tears.

Op makes a good point, Corp-hopping should be made a useless method of evading a war, but the solutions at hand are not easy and they will not please everyone, be sure of that. On the flipside, declaring war should not be such an easy option either, there are simply no consequences for the Wardec-hungry Corps who wardec Indy Corps and far weaker, lesser Corps.

This is EVE, afterall.

CCP have it completely wrong when it comes to the upcoming wardec costs, if anything it should be inverted so it's CHEAPER to dec larger corps not more expensive, this means with the upcoming changes its easier to grief the smaller corps unable to do anything and hard to dec the more established ones, this then just brings in a new version of the Dec shield where you fill your corporation with a crapton of 14 day alts

When it comes to leaving and joining corps at war it should be that people are free to leave but you can't join individual corps at war. Thats just my badly observed opinion though

Just as there is a timer before war hostilities can begin after the declaration, a simple fix would be to allow war targets to remain shootable for 24h after leaving a wardecced corp.

Your corp gets decced? Quit as soon as you get the notification.
You try to dance the corp-hopping fandango? They can still shoot you for 24h after you quit.

I think it's only fair.

Considering they can put out a sizeable resistance yes, unless you think its ok that smaller noobie corps should be cheaper and easier to grief? The point is establishment, larger alliances/corporations are already established and can put manpower into resistance, 20 man noobie mining corps cannot

I can see CCP arming the walking-in-stations characters with stun batons, or even full-on DUST weapons. That would be a seriously entertaining way to push people out of the station.

1. Bust down Captain's Quarters door.
2. 30 seconds to board ship and launch, or they can shoot you in your smug, corp-hopping face.
3. Profit!

I don't really mind being able to dock up during wars, but the whole swapping corps during a war should be a no-go. Make it a corp change timer like when you drop roles, except it lasts until the end of the last wardec.

There were a few strategy games I've played that made it easier to declare war on "belligerent" countries that had engaged in many wars themselves. Perhaps that could be a useful yardstick for setting war dec costs? Say a modifier based on the amount of time a corp has been in an offensive war, vs their total time in existense.

Indy corp who's never war decced anyone : highest cost to wardec
Average corp that's decced some people when they need to do, but never permanently : moderate cost to wardec
Merc corp that's constantly at war, or RvB, or a one man corp specifically set up to annoy people : costs almost nothing to wardec

Awesome. Please contact the Noir. CEO (or other mercenaries) and explain to him that, as he has to wardec the targets of his employers in order to get paid, he's a high-sec carebear and scared to die.




From now on, please reboot your brain every morning before clicking on "POST".

The original poster WAS WARDECCED. He mounted up resistance, only to see the original aggressor hopping corps, getting out of the system, and hopping back again.

This is an abuse and should be labelled an EXPLOIT. And it's particularly pathetic, as it was the original deccing guys who did it, not some 500K SP destroyer miners fresh out of an NPC corp.

I still think that a simple 24h aggresion timer when hopping from a decced corp would prevent all this nonsense.

The problem is that this might interfere with GENUINE attempts at changing corps. The idea is to prevent corp hopping from shielding you from harm, not to prevent you from moving to whatever corp you want,whenever you want to.

An aggression timer would solve the issue at hand and at the same time would allow players to keep developing a corp history longer than the list of Lyz Taylor's husbands, if they want it.