EVE New Citizens Q&A

Here is a Dr Phil moment for you:

You are struggling to help your friend because you cannot help yourself. You are already playing the game in effectivelly single-player mode. So no wonder that you cannot engage your friend in the game either.

EvE is meant to be a social game and you should first join a decent corporation yourself (with more than one person in it of course) that perhaps specialises in mission running but may also introduce you other aspects of EvE. Take your friend along with you and you guys might actually have some fun.

Try PvP - it's what the game is about.

Good luck.

Um, what?

What exactly do you think that you're going to be able to do with skill training that you can't do now?

Yes, but you implied that there are things you would like to do now that you cannot do because of your lack of skill training. What are those things?

Apologies. I didn't mean to imply that there is something I would like to do but can't because of lack of skills. It wasn't until a couple of months ago I fully realised that there are a lot of support skills that improve modules/weapons/industry skills. So I was training the required skills but neglecting the recommended certificates, for example. I am remedying this for the ships/modules I fly/use currently.

I have been enjoying soloing level 4's, and discovering things on my own. But I understand now that if I want to involve my friend and help him get into EVE it is not something I can do on my own.

Of course. I will be seeking a corp tonight and hopefully I will enjoy what I have been doing even more.

Thanks for all your help.

Grab a couple of cheap tackle frigates and head out to low null sec and get blown up a few times. You might catch and kill something you never know.

Or if you want you could do something wild and crazy and bag a couple of Minning barges or exhumers in destroyers for hulkaggedonween.

Do you or your compadre have good scanning skills? He could scan sites down for you and you could clear them with a combat ship.

Or you could do something boring where you run lvl fours and he salvages and cleans up.

Just makes sure your friend gets a chance to do all the proper tutorials and the sisters of eve arc before you put him to work.

I did this with some new players, this is having 3 years more sp than them. While it can be difficult having as much fun, or not taking away all their enjoyment, I found the best way was to use the speed frigates to start, then upgrade to some support role.

Initially, I would do the agro to help let the new player get the feel of the game. Speed frigates are fun, and as long as not powerfit, won't take all the combat away. When they get up, you can take on the support role.

Don't be afraid to show off your bigger ships by inviting them on your missions. I started with level 3 invites using Tier 1 battleships, the ferox specifically. I had my friend fit a combination of close range antifrig with remote support, was great fun. This is based off personal experience.

When I was rookie, I joined a corp which had lvl 4 runs and they let me partake. I used a griffin fitted with remote links to help my corpies hit better.

lastly, exploration or anomalies, they can do the combat/surveying, either or.

I have helped many new players over the years and I still do it, I have many folks who contact me from time to time with questions, problems or when they need guidance. The first thing you need to realise is that different people benefit from different approaches.

Some want to be taken by the hand and shown the rides, some want to have the crash course soaking up massive amounts of info in the form of guides, forums threads and whatnot, and some are best off left alone for the most part, only wanting help when faced with something they don't fully comprehend yet. Apart from that, different people like different things so if you find something fun to do it may be boring or even annoying to others, forcing some newbie into your personal playstyle and ideas really is the wrong way to do it.

Giving people options and explaining things in full rather than simply stating "this is best" (as if there is a best) and then letting them decide for themselves (while emphasising that the choices they make now doesn't mean their future career is set in stone) has yielded the best results in most cases, for me at least.

In your case, because you're quite new yourself and have had a very... limited exposure to EVE so far you're probably not the best teacher around but as long as you realise that every time you give him an answer then, if you do it right, that doesn't necessarily have to be a problem. What I wouldn't do is invite a newbie into your own little corp as that shields him from active, knowledgeable players who would probably be a better choice for him to learn from.

As an aside, the best way to learn stuff is to teach others so you yourself will benefit from this as well.