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Center Gravity / Ship placement
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Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#1 - 2012-05-01 21:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
I am wondering why are ships doing this on singularity:

http://www.netsky.org/eve/inferno/gravityg.png

Seems like "gravity" is off from center..
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It's Megathron Navy Issue.
As you can see i am doing 0.0m/s so my ship should stay horizontal.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#2 - 2012-05-01 22:49:30 UTC
I consider this a feature.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#3 - 2012-05-02 14:59:53 UTC
The way the Eve code works, ships have no "what direction am I facing" or "rotation" value, nor any concept of what space they take up, other than a simple "collision radius". They merely have a "what direction am I going" vector value.

This is why ships can't be upside down, or do somersaults or barrel rolls, why aligning to warp from a standstill takes the same amount of time no matter what direction you're facing, etc. When your ship is stopped, it's just simply that: stopped. The client has no idea what direction it should be facing, so it levels off the ship for good measure.

The markers that you perceive as the "center of gravity" can be more accurately described as the "center of the ship model". For asymmetric ships like the Megathron, this will appear to be off of the center of gravity.

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Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#4 - 2012-05-02 15:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
The way the Eve code works, ships have no "what direction am I facing" or "rotation" value, nor any concept of what space they take up, other than a simple "collision radius". They merely have a "what direction am I going" vector value.

This is why ships can't be upside down, or do somersaults or barrel rolls, why aligning to warp from a standstill takes the same amount of time no matter what direction you're facing, etc. When your ship is stopped, it's just simply that: stopped. The client has no idea what direction it should be facing, so it levels off the ship for good measure.

The markers that you perceive as the "center of gravity" can be more accurately described as the "center of the ship model". For asymmetric ships like the Megathron, this will appear to be off of the center of gravity.

I did the same test on TQ and ship was centered.
You have to know that when you view an object in space, you have limits, you have up and down with you camera.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-05-02 15:18:06 UTC
Wait, you're saying that the ship doesn't level itself off automatically anymore? That would be awesome!

(Reading comprehension fail on my part if so)

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Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#6 - 2012-05-02 15:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Wait, you're saying that the ship doesn't level itself off automatically anymore? That would be awesome!

(Reading comprehension fail on my part if so)

it does but not so much as on SiSi.


TQ: ~ 30°
SiSi: ~ 58°

http://www.netsky.org/eve/inferno/tq30.png <-- TQ
http://www.netsky.org/eve/inferno/sisi58.png <-- SiSi
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#7 - 2012-05-02 16:12:49 UTC
Two different ships with completely different attributes.

Your comparison is mostly worthless.

The auto-leveling the client does would have more effect on a Machariel than it would on a Megathron.

Katrina Oniseki
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#8 - 2012-05-02 16:17:27 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Two different ships with completely different attributes.

Your comparison is mostly worthless.

The auto-leveling the client does would have more effect on a Machariel than it would on a Megathron.

well i tryed mach on sisi and it does the same as mega.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#9 - 2012-05-02 17:05:24 UTC
I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to be seeing with these pics.

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Mayda Junichiro
Vascerum Maximus Inc.
#10 - 2012-05-02 17:35:09 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to be seeing with these pics.


Well, what's on display is very clearly the effects of having sex inside a spaceship.

The ones in the Mega are having a blast (pun intended) in the front end of the ship, while the ones in the Mac are not as adventurous and stick to the captain's pod in the middle of the ship. Big smile

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Silly Slot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-02 22:39:35 UTC
if they disable the autoleveling i'd be so happy, honestly theres no FLAT in space, wtf are my ships settling flat in SPACE... if i go a direciton and stop i shud stop in that same direction and sit there till i engage thrusters again.
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#12 - 2012-05-03 00:32:27 UTC
Silly Slot wrote:
if they disable the autoleveling i'd be so happy, honestly theres no FLAT in space, wtf are my ships settling flat in SPACE... if i go a direciton and stop i shud stop in that same direction and sit there till i engage thrusters again.

Very true.