Science & Industry

Based only on your unjustified and blind hatred of them, no doubt, because you have repeatedly failed to make any serious logical arguments as to why anything you suggest would be better for anybody in particular as opposed to simply providing you with schadenfreude.

T2 BPOs are not quite risk nor effort free either - you won't be manufacturing in Jita (you'd be underutilizing them by having long queued times), so you need to ship out components and ship in the finished product, and THAT is neither effortless nor risk-free. And for T2 items (not ships, items), you will want to use a POS for manufacture to maximize profits, so your batch of goodies (and corresponding materials) are exposed to attacks.

And again, before you can accuse me of self-interest because god forbid I might have hell knows how many of mine...
I can EASILY afford quite a few if I wanted to buy some, just check my wallet : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Akita_T
I don't have any T2 BPOs, neither does my corp. I don't plan on getting any either. I don't want to be bothered with using them.
I can make more ISK with the ISK I already have with far less hassle, effort and even less risk than bothering with T2 BPOs.
Why are you not complaining about nerfing my way of making ISK ?

Pretty much this, yes. POS mechanics would need a lot of changing to make something like that work. But this is off-topic for this thread, even if somewhat related.

My only real problem with T2 BPOs stems from the fact that they are both unique and unassailable. It's something that gives an advantage (whether the advantage is slight or significant is a matter of perspective and largely irrelevant,) and cannot be forced away from the owner. This is no good.

The underlying issue, though, lies at the heart of EVE's industry in general. It's too safe, and is by and large done almost entirely while AFK.

Exactly I don't have a problem with unique ships. As unique ships are unable to completely upset gameplay. If CCP how ever did release a ship that had 100% resistances and let players use it destroy other peoples eve gameplay I would campaign to have it removed.

As such T2BPO does ruin inventors profit and before you come out with some crap about it not STFU everyone knows your talking crap. When 78% of T2 item are produced using a T2BPO and it's not just because that line is unprofitable. T2BPO needs removed it's bad for the game and should not coexist with invention. IF T2BPO is not a problem allow NPC sellers to market them at the same price as T1BPO's fairs, fair.

T2BPO is amongst CCP's biggest mistakes it's probably up there with incarna. T2BPO continues to dispell intrest in eve and deters subscriptions Remove T2BPO's make eve real.

Actually, pretty much everybody with a fully functional brain knows that I don't "talk crap".
All T2 BPOs do is reduce the market slice inventors compete in, and for some markets that slice gets reduced to zero. Wherever inventors compete, they compete primarily amongst themselves.
INVENTORS ruin inventor profits for items where invention is profitable at all, and for items where invention is NOT profitable, even T2 BPO manufacture is barely profitable !!!
There is only a very small set of items where you can make a decent profit with BPOs but you can't make any profit with invention.


Number of items is meaningless if you don't weight it for VALUE of items. You can't compare same count of T2 ammo or small weapons or command ships or ehxumers on the other then go "a-ha, I was right" when the total value pretty much completely reverts your point.
And besides, last time I checked, something like 90% of Hulks are invented. Similar situation for many other high-demand items, maybe not quite as dramatic, but still, the point remains.
In terms of TOTAL MARKET VALUE, invention generates the more sizeable portion of the T2 manufacturing pie, not T2 BPO manufacture.


HOW EXACTLY are they bad for the game ? You fail to PROVE that.
And why should they not coexist with invention ? ACTUAL INVENTORS (you know, the guys doing it for PROFIT on a decent scale as opposed to a hobby or in very small batches) are not really complaining. Why the hell are you ? Let me guess - you DO NOT invent for profit, do you ?


Sure thing, why not. I mean, who wants inventors anyway. And nobody needed that datacore income either.
That's all sarcasm, by the way.

One of the two main reasons why T2 BPOs are not really much of a problem is EXACTLY their enormous price, which is set by players alone, and has been set by players alone FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
However, if you want to make it so that fresh T2 BPOs are redeemable for a HUGE amount of datacores that are relevant to the blueprint in question (for a total market price of datacores averaged over the last year that would noticeably surpass that of recent corresponding T2 BPO trade value) then yeah, that makes SOME sense.
In the short run, that is.
In the long run, you're only going to make the inventor profession vanish altogether, and the more T2 BPOs would exist, the cheaper they would get (because less and less people need datacores as the inventors occupy a shrinking market share), accelerating the process in some distant future.

That joke solution is just that, a joke.


Actually, the INITIAL DISTRIBUTION METHOD for T2 BPOs was the mistake. Big difference. Also, an irrelevant issue already, irrelevant since the end of the lottery.
Another mistake (which they'll probably correct soon), keeping moongoo production levels capped.

Since you are so willing to destroy players by making them have negitave wallets for buying things, I have set up a contract of 10mill for your pod, and have people more than willing to take the sec status hit for the isk, i will be sure to post the kill mail when you get podded.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwy_fy5tmf0#t=3m20s

With Akita playing the role of Louis CK and Brewlar playing the role of his 3 year old daughter.

You are arguing with someone who fundamentally lacks the ability to understand. You would have as much luck explaining quantum physics to a fruit fly.

Suuuuuuure, why buff what needs buffing when you can totally screw everybody else instead ? [/sarcasm]

I give up.
You're lacking the capacity to understand that you're wrong, let alone why.
Good luck with your continued issues, because they'll never stop, since CCP will most likely never remove T2 BPOs.

If you ever want to stop being so clueless, feel free to re-read my previous posts, because I really said everything that needed to be said to convince a non-stupid person.
Then maybe you can start championing for something that CCP might actually eventually do.

hehe, said the Guy who called everyone stupid and showed that he has no idea what he is talking about (the ROI incident)

It`s not just that you dont read the post of the people your talking to, you dont evne read your own posts.

You mean free because I knew a dev. Yeah I think getting handed T2BPO in the form of assets/drops/corrupt lottery is unfair, remove T2BPO they are unfair and were seeded unfairly.