EVE General Discussion

You can use the links for more than a Tengu, you can use the Tengu for a lot more than link boosting.

Good news: you'll still have an awesome booster alt.

…oh, and the time required to train up such an alt is quite a lot less than the time required to get the same character into a command ship, which is the training route he should have had to take.

Also, it takes less than a year to train every last leadership skill to V, so that alt must have been using a pretty awful skill plan if it took that long.

The pro links argument sounds suspiciously similar to the old pre-nerf Falcon arguments.. "you can train for one too so it can't be unbalanced!"

I can understand what that change would be for and can even agree with it in concept, but…(there’s always a but)…

Rorquals would need a change of some kind. If any Rorqual pilot hit siege mode outside a POS shield…well, they’d deserve what they got. But other than that, anyone with half a brain can see that Rorqs would get relegated to nothing more than giant ore crushers.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I agree that it’s kind of broken that you can give off grid bonuses virtually risk free. And while as a miner I like it, simply removing that ability without any other mitigating mechanic changes is overkill

My contention is that in order for the Rorqual to be 100% effective, it has to lock itself down, and do it outside the POS shields. No one in their right mind will do it.

It’s funny that you complain that I’m afraid of being shot at that Rorquals hide in POS shields. It’s *because* of people with your attitude that Rorqual pilots tuck themselves away behind shields.

It wouldn’t be so bad if there wasn’t such a bad case of cap proliferation, where space is full of hotdroppers ready to cyno in a dread fleet to kill battlecruisers (it happens, you know it, don’t deny it).

What do you think would happen to that poor defenseless Rorqual?

There are lots of possibilities to change things around to make a sieged Rorqual go from ‘certain death’ to ‘I need to watch my ass,’ which is really all the change you need.

Lets see for me, and I don't care if peeps know it since any spy would know if I am boosting for fleet anyway.

15,872,000 sp Leadership category

That is EVERY-SINGLE-SKILL including mining to level 5.

Command ships, lvl 5
Cybernetic or whatever the implant skill is, lvl 5

on grid I fly:
T2 commship values=300mil appox? Sure not t3 value, but still a fair bit that is actually in combat
T2 mindlink = +100mil

Shall I get into the value when I bring a command linked capital ship into combat? I am sure there is a fair bit more isk and sp invested to fly those into combat than a T3, as well as I need a cyno to escape, easier to tackle and can be doomsday/fighter bomber/dreadnought off the field pretty fast.

As it stands, I if there were a way to moor a supercap, I would freaking command link them and bring them into fights. Just really no interest in playing the holding alt or locked into the ship pain in the arse.

Edit: Also the reduced off grid, there is only one reason I don't agree to that and it is simply because one booster can still offer alot more types and spread of boost for the command position than that of the ongrid, but I could accept a reduced offgrid bonus while we have no flagship T2 battleship.

I am not the highlander.

not sure why it's so important to them to want the command booster on grid.. when the command ships cannot be cloaked and as is they are rather easy to scan down. Nerfing boosters is going to make Rorq fleet boosting a thing of the past.. no one is going to take a rorq into a belt for the boost.

I think they should rethink this idea on the whole.

You could probably make an exception for the Rorqual, since its more expensive and way more vulnerable than a command ship or strat cruiser performing a boosting role.
But logically I think a command ship and boosting in general should work better if they're actually somewhere in the general vicinity of the fight they're overseeing. Perhaps just a reduced bonus for those off-grid?

For that, well I agree. The belts make it too lol to kill a rorq or an orca for their value. But hopefully if the scanning style industry comes into play, then it will be alot less of an issue since it would take some time to actually find and scan down the ship. Any attentive fleet could easily get away. Drawback of course is that dang industrial core. I know enemy is coming, but I already paid the fuel, damn well am going to use it!

Edit, and make it capable of boosting, even a reduced boosting not deployed maybe.