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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-05-02 00:59:13 UTC
the hulk is clearly underpowered for its cost considering that everyone is flying t1 barges instead

oh wait diagoras' statistics show that it is literally the most popular hull in the game

no changes needed ;p

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
TWHC Assistant
#122 - 2012-05-02 02:04:00 UTC  |  Edited by: TWHC Assistant
Andski wrote:
the hulk is clearly underpowered for its cost considering that everyone is flying t1 barges instead

oh wait diagoras' statistics show that it is literally the most popular hull in the game

no changes needed ;p

You are joking. The Hulk is not popular! If the statistic is about the time spent by a player in a particular ship and this ship happens to be a mining ship, then all it means is that it takes an awful lot of time to make ISKs with mining. Only a moron would call a ship in which you have to spend such a lot of time "popular". If the statistic is about the production or the destruction of items then it is obvious who thinks of a Hulk as a popular ship - the gankers and the builders.

The Hulk actually holds only 2.5% of the entire popularity cake. The huge majority is held by the many combat ships.

It is astonishing how a ship and its profession as unpopular as this is needed for producing many of the minerals needed in building the combat ships. You would think everyone would own a Hulk by now and mines as often as they go fighting.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#123 - 2012-05-02 02:11:20 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Andski wrote:
the hulk is clearly underpowered for its cost considering that everyone is flying t1 barges instead

oh wait diagoras' statistics show that it is literally the most popular hull in the game

no changes needed ;p

You are joking. The Hulk is not popular! If the statistic is about the time spent by a player in a particular ship and this ship happens to be a mining ship, then all it means is that it takes an awful lot of time to make ISKs with mining. Only a moron would call a ship in which you have to spend such a lot of time "popular". If the statistic is about the production or the destruction of items then it is obvious who thinks of a Hulk as being popular ship - the gankers and the builders.

The Hulk actually holds only 2.5% of the entire popularity cake. The huge majority is held by the many combat ships.

It is astonishing how a ship and its profession as unpopular as this is needed for producing many of the minerals needed in building the combat ships. You would think everyone would own a Hulk by now and mines as often as they go fighting.


okay

http://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/179947277178241025 (the Hulk is the most popular active ship among characters with >5m SP)
http://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/196395975676407808 (22% of active accounts have a Hulk in a hangar)

clearly an underpowered ship

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#124 - 2012-05-02 02:19:27 UTC
TWHC, you were calling me a troll. Meet a real one Big smile.

Aww yeah.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#125 - 2012-05-02 05:04:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Bunnie Hop
Andski wrote:
my hulk should have 30 million ehp and the agility of a dramiel just because abloobloobloo


At least most trolls put some effort into it, you are just being idiotic, but perhaps you can't help yourself.
TWHC Assistant
#126 - 2012-05-02 09:00:20 UTC
Andski wrote:
http://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/179947277178241025 (the Hulk is the most popular active ship among characters with >5m SP)
http://twitter.com/CCP_Diagoras/status/196395975676407808 (22% of active accounts have a Hulk in a hangar)

clearly an underpowered ship

No, clearly the pod is over-powered and Titans are under-powered. Next thing we get to hear is that diapers are the most popular baby product, because we love the smell of **** in a bag.

The Hulk is then no. 17 on the owner list. Not no. 1. Are you now trying to fool people? Oh, wait, you are a Goon...
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#127 - 2012-05-02 09:20:53 UTC
You know what hulks and mining ships DO need more tank, and my falcon needs to make ORE one it uses Ewar, and my Rohk needs to make moon goo one it takes damage, and my carrier needs to make ice one its fighters return to its bays........................................................

Your all full of it!!!! the fact that you get any tank at all is a cop-out that dose not fit in the game its there so you can wine less, no real industralist would wast there time on such a frivolousness. No company trying to make money would bother to market such a thing its YOU the crappy player that cant grasp that this is a roll playing game PLAY YOUR ROLE. ya wanna know why you get ganked, it's because we hate you and your sniveling crap. Grow up, people trying to gank you? evade, use a BS, move or shut up. Join a group in low or null that will watch your back. can't be bothered? then adapt! every time its the same crap from you wa wa change this, then it happens then you STILL GET GANKED! so whats the real problem is it the gankers or is it the useless pray that cant be arsed to even keep up?

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
TWHC Assistant
#128 - 2012-05-02 09:23:47 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
TWHC, you were calling me a troll. Meet a real one Big smile.

Aww yeah.

Do not worry about being a troll. A "troll" is not only an insult but can also be an honorary title, which is passed on from poster to poster. How you want to see it - as a title or as an insult - becomes a choice you make.
TWHC Assistant
#129 - 2012-05-02 09:28:49 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
You know what hulks and mining ships DO need more tank, and my falcon ... so whats the real problem is it the gankers or is it the useless pray that cant be arsed to even keep up?

Welcome, nice of you to pop in.

Did you know that your Falcon once used to be quite a powerful ship, but then got its wings clipped?
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#130 - 2012-05-02 09:36:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
You know what hulks and mining ships DO need more tank, and my falcon ... so whats the real problem is it the gankers or is it the useless pray that cant be arsed to even keep up?

Welcome, nice of you to pop in.

Did you know that your Falcon once used to be quite a powerful ship, but then got its wings clipped?



lol its not mind boggling OP any more for sure but is still dose its job. See all it took was reconsidering its new lay out and changing tactics accordingly, ya know that thing you go one you play a game and you both try and are good at it.............

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Cardano Firesnake
Fire Bullet Inc
#131 - 2012-05-02 11:05:49 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1187362#post1187362

I agree.

I think all industrials ships should have a better tank. Not enough to be invulnerable, but enough to not be destroy by an alone Tornado.

Posted - 2010.07.01 11:24:00 - [4] Erase learning skills, remap all SP. That's all.
TWHC Assistant
#132 - 2012-05-02 11:08:59 UTC
Cardano Firesnake wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1187362#post1187362

I agree.

I think all industrials ships should have a better tank. Not enough to be invulnerable, but enough to not be destroy by an alone Tornado.

Just when I thought that GoonSwarm are like the Hell's Angels of the Internetz does one of you agree.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#133 - 2012-05-02 12:59:45 UTC
Cardano Firesnake wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1187362#post1187362

I agree.

I think all industrials ships should have a better tank. Not enough to be invulnerable, but enough to not be destroy by an alone Tornado.


Finially a voice of reason from the pirate-side of the game.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#134 - 2012-05-02 13:55:58 UTC
lol goons are mostly bears.
Your mining barges work fine your just bad at mining/indistry, If your getting ganked it's you that needs to change. All the tools you need to gather ore are there use them.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Drakos Vala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#135 - 2012-05-02 14:00:24 UTC
I would contribute to the thread but i've got to go tank my tractor.
TWHC Assistant
#136 - 2012-05-02 14:22:56 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
lol goons are mostly bears.
Your mining barges work fine your just bad at mining/indistry, If your getting ganked it's you that needs to change. All the tools you need to gather ore are there use them.

Let us turn EVE Online into a browser game and with one single space ship type. Everyone gets the same and all this ship needs to do is to blink and beep. When you loose it then it is just you. We could all be as happy as fat kid eating cake or Rel'k Bloodlor here. You should have had this idea much sooner. It is a great idea and solves almost all issues. How did you get this idea, is it really yours?
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#137 - 2012-05-02 14:43:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
Drakos Vala wrote:
I would contribute to the thread but i've got to go tank my tractor.



Man i can't put strip miners on my falcon......falcon needs a boost, and at least 500K to shields. Also T2 mining ships mine to much and need to be nerfed to put them in line with the mining ability of all other ships its only fair after all. i mean there what 200+ mill isk so any T2 200 mill ship should be able to mine that much.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
TWHC Assistant
#138 - 2012-05-02 14:52:46 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
Man i can't put strip miners on my falcon......falcon needs a boost, and at least 500K to shields. Also T2 mining ships mine to much and need to be nerfed to put them in line with the mining ability of all other ships its only fair after all. i mean there what 200+ mill isk so any T2 200 mill ship should be able to mine that much.

Why fix anything? Let us eat more cake.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#139 - 2012-05-02 14:54:13 UTC
This thread appears to have devolved to the level of discussion that it deserves. Not surprising.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#140 - 2012-05-02 15:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
This thread appears to have devolved to the level of discussion that it deserves. Not surprising.



Yar its sad to because indie has huge problems and the mining hulls do need work, just no one wants to think about it. They want snap reactionary changes to player driven environmental problems. No one thinks to ask why there is no T2 gas miner, or a hull that refines ore on the field, or why sub cap T1 manufacture is just alchemy from a fantasy game with si-fi key words, or the fact that the mining profession is about as engaging as paint drying, or why is it that mining has such huge cycle times, or were all the grave sites at. no its always the same make it ezer for my and my bots, I can't fap and scan local at the same time well using the wrong ship in a environmen that it will just get killed in...........

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats.