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Exactly the same as before, just in a more predictable way, which is essence of TD.

I'm curious about the time disjunct of dilation being used advantageously. For example, in a large fleet battle, podded characters can appear outside the dilated area and then return to the fight. Inside the battle system it will appear as if only a very short time has passed since the pilot was killed. Any information on how time dilation is integrated into the rest of the EVE clock?

Remember thats what happens now with a lagged out fight. TiDi does not really give an advantage to the returning pilot comared to the present situation with lag, it just makes it fair for everyone in the fight.

Also, if you request a dedicated node for a big fight, then only the one solar system on that node will see TiDi.

CCP Veritas: any possibility of getting a number for the little TiDi level indicator, otherwise known as Gamma? Starting at 100% and dropping as things slow? Also the stuttering is sort of annoying. And if Gamma got down to 10% or 5%, the slowing of the UI panning or typing would be a major annoyance.

Other than that looks really nice.

that video is not such a great eye candy, but as a 0.0 grunt i cant wait to see this going live.

:thumbsup:

With time dilation i was under the impression that fights with 200, 300, 500, 1000 people would go as smooth (FPS wise) as fights with.. you know.. 20, 30, 50 or 100 but it would be in slow-motion as in your armor repairer takes 100 seconds to cycle instead of 10, but the enemies gun will also take 100 seconds to cycle instead of 10.

About effects, i can have very smooth FPS with over 100 NPC RATS shooting me with lasers so the effects are the same as players shooting lasers i suppose.


So in that video demonstration of yours.. if you had turned off missiles, turret effects, brackets etc and didn't had fraps turned on, time would dilate but would the FPS remain the same? Or would it drop to 10 or 12 like it was in the video (seemed 10 or 12..)?

Like most others I'd also like to see the UI not affected by the slowdown. And as someone said, in the ideal world it would be completely disconnected from the server state and internal update loop.

However, I'm pretty sure the client is so crappily coded that it in fact has a connection between the UI updating and the update loop anyway. For example you see that the entire client freeze every time you stack a large amount of stuff, or when the overview updates. Had the UI been standalone this wouldn't happen. Therefore CCP, in their quest to get as much use with as little change as possible, has simply changed the clock (update loop) in the dilated systems, and this carries over to the client and it's internal update loop which then also decreases framerate, unfortunately.

In my opinion it would have been much better with a client coded in C++ with a separate thread for the UI. But now it's in python (which sucks at multithreading) and we probably have to live with that and the connected freezes and update loop dependency during a foreseeable future.

I like it couldnt really care less if the camera is slowed down and the ui is also slowed down, as long as what i shoot gets hit then im fine with all the other things being slowed down

We know its not the perfect soloution to it but it will certainly help hopefully

1. In these situations, it is quite common for the warp scram notification to come up in your log anyway, even though the target has already warped off.

2. If you are wasting screen space, and information scanning time on the log, you are doing it wrong.

3. I of course did not literally mean that everyone calls out point over coms every time this happens. Forgive the small bit of artistic license used to convey the sense of disappointment missing a target snag thanks to module lag causes.

4. When are you guys going to go back to missioning in carriers so we can kill them with a couple man BC gang again?

Something to actually be excited about in Eve! This is innovation -not some avatars in a room.

Things have come a long way already since the days where Eve was unplayable in large fleet battles. This will improve them even more.

For those complaining over the fact this affects an entire node, and not just particular systems:

Major fleet lag affects entire nodes. You would know this had you ever been involved in skirmish fights on the same node a large fleet battle was occurring. Therefore it is reasonable and required to slow down the entire slice of virtual space.