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Issues thread for the new font on SiSi

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Tobin Shalim
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-09-25 03:15:06 UTC
....along with the new cyno effects?
Wylma Wyrd
Guns 'n' Droneses
#42 - 2011-09-25 12:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylma Wyrd
An open letter to the army of armchair designers and fancy font fanatics who have enthusiastically swooped on this thread like attention-starved carrion fowl:

Kindly cease and desist with the "this or that sci-fi font would look sooooooooooooooooooooo(breath)oooooooooooooooo cool" balderdash.

Try an experiment (a quick thought experiment sufficed for me (but for some of you I'd perhaps suggest something involving typing, copying, pasting, rescaling and gasping)) whereby you compress some of these artless monstrosities into the miserly space that one is so obviously constrained to in the EVE UI, and you'll soon come to appreciate (actually, you probably won't (but never mind because the good taste bypass procedure many of you seem to have undergone doubtless makes even the most sordidly overdecorated large-hadron-collider-grade-blue-LED adorned case seem unassailably chic)) that if your hackneyed hieroglyphics belong anywhere, then that unlucky somewhere had best be as far as possible from your trusty local internet spaceship simulator.

Yours minimalistically,

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Endymi Typhirr
#43 - 2011-09-29 13:33:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Endymi Typhirr
Hrug wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
SiSi will have a new font in the next build, most likely tomorrow, September 21st.

...

Any updates on the date?

(an additional 4-5 days later)

Any indication at all would be useful.

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Holy One
Privat Party
#44 - 2011-09-29 21:19:13 UTC
Sorry but that looks pretty manky. I hope it is very much a work in progress, because being forced to use that would seriously make the game a drag. I don't have any issues with the current font; not being 'disabled' or unable to tell the difference between two different characters.

Making a new font that looks very akin to the amateur freetype **** from a linux distro, isn't what I'd consider a step forward. Making eve look like some terrible X11 inspired mess from 2001 really isn't either.

Can we continue to use the old font by choice or not?

:)
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#45 - 2011-09-30 18:47:10 UTC
It would be great if you could post your issues here and preferably with a screenshot.

CCP Affinity and I will be monitoring this and try to fix issues as soon as we can Smile

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Krispy Dingo
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#46 - 2011-09-30 19:02:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krispy Dingo
On the EULA, and I know, who reads the EULA, there is some clipping on the left hand side for the headings

This is on a Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit machine, 1280x720 resolution.

http://krispydingo.com/images/EULA_font_issue.PNG

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Mila Strelok
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2011-09-30 19:35:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mila Strelok
with new SiSi build, no text on textboxes

http://i.imgur.com/ElrfQ.png


Windows 7 64bit - 1920x1080
theteck
#48 - 2011-09-30 19:38:08 UTC
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/eula.png/




no font in eula


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Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2011-09-30 20:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Herold Oldtimer
I also have problems getting past the EULA.

Font Problem

I have also opened a petition.

Id is 2621292

Should have everything you need there, but if you need more, I'll see if I can dig it up.

I'm also running windows 7 64 bit
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2011-09-30 20:22:28 UTC
Mila Strelok wrote:
with new SiSi build, no text on textboxes

http://i.imgur.com/ElrfQ.png


Windows 7 64bit - 1920x1080


Same issue... no font in textbox... and unable to scroll down the eula as there is no scrollbar either...
so... unable to activate the button on bottom... and obviously because of that...
unable to close that window and unable log in :)

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Blue Harrier
#51 - 2011-09-30 20:48:48 UTC
To anyone having problems with the eula not scrolling find the 'prefs.ini' and edit it, look for the line 'languageID=' and change it to 'languageID=EN' it should then work fine.

It seems the client is looking for unavailable language files.

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Mila Strelok
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2011-09-30 20:53:57 UTC
Blue Harrier wrote:
To anyone having problems with the eula not scrolling find the 'prefs.ini' and edit it, look for the line 'languageID=' and change it to 'languageID=EN' it should then work fine.

It seems the client is looking for unavailable language files.

it works!!!!!!! thanks
Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#53 - 2011-09-30 20:58:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Greygal
The capital letter "Q" needs to have its lower slashy thing stand out more. As it is, capital "Q" looks an awful lot like capital "O"

There seems to be a lot of unparsed labels - instead of seeing proper labels, I'm seeing things like:

[no label: UI/InfoWindow/MedalAwardedNumTimes]

(That's from the Medals tab of the Decorations page on my character sheet. Should say, "Kick Ass Award")

Dates/times are not parsing into spelled-out dates/times as they previously did. For example, on the Training Queue page of the Character sheet, I prefer the way the time remaining displays on the old system - as "4 Days 3 Hours 9 Minutes" instead of "04:03:09:22"

Blue bar showing skill que crunches into the line that says "FINISHES 10/4/11 11:20:36 PM PDT"

Commas missing on character sheet displaying how many skill points saved on my clone

Hard to differentiate between commas and periods

Combat log is all whacked out of alignment - text is taking up far more space vertically than is available for the text. Odd squares/brackets(?) (look like []) after corp and alliance names.

Text is also somewhat vertically space challenged on the Augmentations page of the Character sheet.

On the HUD, bottom of HUD, the text showing (WARPING) and speed when not warping (i.e., "97 M/S") is very big, actually should be smaller - it almost runs off the HUD.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-09-30 21:04:36 UTC
Blue Harrier wrote:
To anyone having problems with the eula not scrolling find the 'prefs.ini' and edit it, look for the line 'languageID=' and change it to 'languageID=EN' it should then work fine.

It seems the client is looking for unavailable language files.


yep thanks.. had FI(nnish) on that and changing it to EN(glish) fixed the issue.

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Captain Alcatraz
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-09-30 21:13:11 UTC
O/0 difference is good but... the font is terribly ugly, feels like 1994
Absent Sentry
#56 - 2011-09-30 21:15:59 UTC
As far as distinguishing characters from each other goes, 0 (zero) and O (oh) are fixed but O (oh) and Q (cue) still have a serious issue:

http://i.imgur.com/uDyTB.png

D (dee) and O (oh) will probably still cause issues in small font situations, particularly in the probing interface under the ID column. SiSi went down before I was able to check, but it's a problem there with the current font on TQ, so it's worth a look. Ultimately, O (oh) seems a bit anorexic and should be fattened, while Q (cue) just needs a more prominent marking in the bottom right corner.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#57 - 2011-09-30 23:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Esrevid Nekkeg
Here are the things I noticed (in random order) regarding the new fonts:


  1. Ship names in the station Services tab seem to randomly lose (part of) the first letter of their name.
    2. http://eve-files.com/dl/248067

    It's not a matter of name length it seems, 'Zonnescheerder' has 14 letters and the 'Z' is cut of, while 'Grijze Hagelstorm' has 17 and doesn't get any letter cut of.

  2. Times and dates are very difficult to read/comprehend. For example the remaining time left in the skill queue is reading like a single 8 digit number. The divisions are only visible for me if I put my nose against the screen.
    3. Another example is the date for the next neural remap in the attributes tab of the character sheet: http://eve-files.com/dl/248071 For me it reads as 20111215 184258. Ok, it is technically depicting the date and time, but is far from easy to read.
    There are many, many places where a date or timer is shown with the same readability/comprehension issue.
    Although in the Market tab, the expiration date/time of the market orders is depicted the 'old fashioned' way. Much better readable!

  3. Text in the Character sheet Combat Log tab is not staying within the text box: http://eve-files.com/dl/248073
    4. While on the other hand, in the Agents tab of People & Places it is: http://eve-files.com/dl/248074
    It looks as if in the Combat log the line height is determined by the picture size (leaving to little room for the text) and in the Agent tab by the text size: http://eve-files.com/dl/248075 (left Combat log, right Agents tab)

  4. Found some very strange text behaviour in my wallet tab: http://eve-files.com/dl/248076
    5. Yes that's it! Save resources! Why use all those columns, if it can fit in only two?.....Big smile



Hopes this small list helps. There are probably some more glitches, I will test again tomorrow. Now, off to bed.

E.N.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2011-10-01 00:38:14 UTC
Di Mulle
#59 - 2011-10-01 00:41:22 UTC
Esrevid Nekkeg wrote:

  • Times and dates are very difficult to read/comprehend. For example the remaining time left in the skill queue is reading like a single 8 digit number. The divisions are only visible for me if I put my nose against the screen.
    • Another example is the date for the next neural remap in the attributes tab of the character sheet: http://eve-files.com/dl/248071 For me it reads as 20111215 184258. Ok, it is technically depicting the date and time, but is far from easy to read.
    There are many, many places where a date or timer is shown with the same readability/comprehension issue.
    Although in the Market tab, the expiration date/time of the market orders is depicted the 'old fashioned' way. Much better readable!



    Many times this.
    <<Insert some waste of screen space here>>
    Krispy Dingo
    The Gold Angels
    Sixth Empire
    #60 - 2011-10-01 00:43:07 UTC
    Problems with the readout for Shield/Armour/Hull.

    http://krispydingo.com/images/readout_issues.jpg

    Shield shows [Numeric Shield]
    Armour is fine
    Hull is blank

    It also shows the same thing when looking at both absolute readout or percentage readout.

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