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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#121 - 2012-05-01 19:22:50 UTC
OP: NEWSFLASH most hisec hulk gankers are pirates flying in from lowsec, are flashy, and you can shoot them.

bring some frigate friends.
Shade Severii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#122 - 2012-05-01 19:25:03 UTC
mine in low populated areas....dscan......if there are thrashers in your system warp

dont go afk
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#123 - 2012-05-01 19:28:18 UTC
Shade Severii wrote:
mine in low populated areas....dscan......if there are thrashers in your system warp

dont go afk

all of this doesn't help our "i wish to mine in perfect safety, protected from any amount of gankers, while i am in the other room"

i'd say they're botters but even bots can manage to Not Die

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#124 - 2012-05-01 19:32:12 UTC
Noofels wrote:
Ganking season!

I ask now. What legal methods do I have to prevent my Hulk from being destroyed in high-sec? The game provides avenues for the aggressors, but I see no visible avenues available for me as a defender.



It's a riddle...

... the only way to win is not to play...

If I was a miner I would just suspend my account for the duration of hulkageddon...

Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread
D3F4ULT
#125 - 2012-05-01 19:33:47 UTC
don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Welcome to EVE and the reality that High sec is less safe than null/lowsec.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2012-05-01 20:36:31 UTC
Noofels wrote:
I ask now. What legal methods do I have to prevent my Hulk from being destroyed in high-sec? The game provides avenues for the aggressors, but I see no visible avenues available for me as a defender.


Don't know why this sort of thread keeps popping up in the forums.

First of all, ANY kind of ships can be "ganked" especially subcaps and more especially those which is not a pvp-buffer-tanked-combat-ship in which Hulks and other industrial ships are not and should never be one of them.

Second, unless you've seen an ore truck somewhere that has a titanium plating that can withstand a shot from an RPG without resulting on a hole as big as Kansas, i fail to see any logic on your "request". Your hulk is a mining ship, an industrial role ship. It is not designed to have the ability to withstand alphastrikes, you know that as well as i do. I find it weird that people keeps complaining about this, perhaps this should be made clear.

Hulk

is NOT

a

combat

ship.

stop complaining about their tanks, if you want your prius to be able to withstand shots from grenades and machine guns, do it yourselves, don't complain to the manufacturer.

Third, instead of complaining about something that is 'working as intended', learn to prealign, watch dscan, scout, fleet up, move to nullsec, stop afkmining (seriously, if you're doing this, then you deserve it). There are lots of 'solutions' to your 'issues', learn to play the game for once.

Don't get me wrong, i don't hate miners, Eve needs them (in a sense), and it's a valid gameplay, but this sort of complaint is ridiculous imo.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Rekon X
Doomheim
#127 - 2012-05-01 20:41:08 UTC
Tillin Sylph wrote:
Stop playing EVE.


We need a rule to block the simple minded from posting in forums.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#128 - 2012-05-01 20:48:05 UTC
There are systems I've seen that have no players in for hours.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#129 - 2012-05-01 20:53:04 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Welcome to EVE and the reality that High sec is less safe than null/lowsec.


"i can get killed in highsec it is so dangerous much more than anywhere else" - bleeting swine who are terrified at the idea of leaving highsec

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#130 - 2012-05-01 20:56:34 UTC
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....

I have more space likes than you. 
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#131 - 2012-05-01 21:06:25 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
An interesting way to fix this that i just came up with would be for a mining fleet (including the combat defense ships) to be flagged for open combat. Meaning that while the op is going on, anyone can shoot them, and they can shoot anyone else. That way your combat pilots could actually defend you, and you wouldn't have to go running to CCP every time some big, bad bear comes and blows your defenseless ship up.

Basically running a mining op would be like being wardecced to the whole galaxy, only it wouldn't be announced and would only last as long as there were mining ships actually mining and an orca providing bonuses.



I think you should repost this in the Features and Ideas forum. Seriously.

It has some merit and is worth a discussion of it's own, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lord Grantham
Downton Endeavours
#132 - 2012-05-01 21:15:21 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....


Exactly what is the barrier preventing you from going into lowsec if they are safer?
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#133 - 2012-05-01 21:37:10 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
There are systems I've seen that have no players in for hours.


This x 100000000

You know, you don't have to mine within 3 jumps of a trade hub. Make a little effort please. Find a nice quiet dead-end 0.5 system and mine for hours on end. If someone should happen to pop into local, dock up if you are worried.

No good deed goes unpunished
Lharanai
Fools of the Blue Oyster
#134 - 2012-05-01 22:25:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lharanai
Lord Grantham wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....


Exactly what is the barrier preventing you from going into lowsec if they are safer?




The problem is how you get into EVE in the beginning, no I am not participating in that "who's the carebear-discussion", and I don't see it as a problem but as you asked for the barrier, I will tell you what my barrier was (if you want or not)

It took me three attempts to get hooked up to EVE because I am a casual player, and I usual try to figure things out by myself before I ask for help. So I did not join a corp for the first six months in EVE...what happened and I am quite sure that happens to every noob who is not from the beginning in a corp.

1. yay your first cruiser after a week waiting for the skills, who wants to fly frigs, they suck, everybody has bigger ships
2. time to make some money, now I can do level 2 missions, mining is boring yay
3. hmmm this mission wants me to go to low sec....I heard stories it can't be so bad and I have a cruiser, I am not a noob anymore
4. hah he has only a frig....wait..... why can't I hit him and what happens with my cap
5. this bastard....he killed my shiny cruiser...I will have revenge I also have a frigate
6. WHY CAN"T I hit him....this is not FAIR
7. LOW/NULL sec is not fair....I have no chance...so I will not try it anymore...I will stay in highsec here at least I know how to not get killed (that was before suicide ganking got popular:)



a lot of new players get burned by low or null sec in the beginning because they lack the knowledge how pvp really works, the tutorials are only good for PVE.

just my zwei Pfennige, and who finds sarcasm can have it :)


EDIT: and for me it needed a good corp and boring griefers to leave highsec and I am not looking back, highsec sucks

Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#135 - 2012-05-01 22:37:02 UTC
Lord Grantham wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....


Exactly what is the barrier preventing you from going into lowsec if they are safer?


The 5 at the gatecamp.
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2012-05-02 00:39:00 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Lord Grantham wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....


Exactly what is the barrier preventing you from going into lowsec if they are safer?


The 5 at the gatecamp.


Gatecamps are just fiction made up by Hi-Sec Carebears to get CCP to ban all PVP. And your mission ship that you tried to take into 0.4 space thinking that it was just a step down from 0.5 space is now killmail gatecamp fiction too... funny that...
Ira Infernus
Knights-of-Cydonia
#137 - 2012-05-02 00:45:28 UTC
Mine in a battleship; So you might have to drop your cargo more frequently; just use an alt in a tanked ship with nice cargohold to take your rocks to a safespot and when you have enough, pick it up in a hauler... problem solved.

Stupid mining carebears, not a single brain cell about how to overcome a challenge.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#138 - 2012-05-02 00:53:09 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
There are several options available for you during these times. It's just that the stay still and continue to mine AFK isn't one of the good ones. If you choose to continue to use the best mining vessel for the job, you have to bail out at the first sign of trouble. This means learning to use the intel tools available and allows higher profits at the expense of having to pay constant attention to your surroundings. You can also choose to use a less efficient ship for mining, but which offers great tanking potential. Any 8 Turret battleship should do just fine.


+1 for the mining Rokh

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Hench Tenet
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2012-05-02 01:16:59 UTC
ITT:

"I want my risk-free isk faucet to be even less risky and be just as much of a faucet"
The Crushah
Yarrtards With Epeen
#140 - 2012-05-02 02:14:08 UTC
Duvida wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Lord Grantham wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
average population of a highsec system : 50

average population of a lowsec system: 5

yep highsec is safer.....


Exactly what is the barrier preventing you from going into lowsec if they are safer?


The 5 at the gatecamp.


Gatecamps are just fiction made up by Hi-Sec Carebears to get CCP to ban all PVP. And your mission ship that you tried to take into 0.4 space thinking that it was just a step down from 0.5 space is now killmail gatecamp fiction too... funny that...


Have you visited Rancer lately?

Mining in low sec is against my religion and the infidels must be purged from this existence.