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CCP is the husband. We are its wife. Our marriage just hit the 9 year mark.
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Remarka Belle Locus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-09-30 19:41:00 UTC
Iosue wrote:
Also consider that CCP is not a person


Not in America. In America, corporations are people too!
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#22 - 2011-09-30 19:47:53 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
An youre original, locked (IBTL), thread got locked cause you posted a video of a preacher/priest/clergy/religious type guy talking on this subject an EVE-O plus religion = no-no


I quite so happen to know that.. and it was not my intention of having people de-rail the thread with off-topic content. Therefore i made another thread sans-religious stuff. And you're trying to bring it back. Your point?

Iosue wrote:
CCP is a service provider and I am a customer. When they do things I do not like, I let them know my money will not continue to flow as long as I see certain critical issues. I am actually doing them a huge favor by doing this. If I go to restaurant and have a lousy meal, do I complain to the owner? Some may but I do not, I simply cease going to that restaurant any longer. If a mechanic does a poor job or overcharges me for parts or labor, do I complain to the business? No, I just stop using that shop and take my business elsewhere.

I am doing CCP a favor in letting them know what problems I have with their service and how far they can go before I no longer see value in what they provide. This is a good thing. If CCP can’t handle their customer’s responses, they should go cease operations and start working for the government.


Yup, thats about right. You are not only doing them a favor you are doing them a much required service because you like the game and you want to continue enjoying it.

However, your favor to them gets lost amongst seas of negative criticism, off-topic content (ponies, much?), hate threads, real-life threats and et cetera in such a way that it probably will be forever lost and never to be seen. If 85% of your customers are full of crap, 10% remain silent and only 5% say constructive, usefull stuff, can you find the usefull ones without having to go through seas of ****? Maybe CCP Fallout can atest to what i'm talking about? Lol

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-09-30 20:00:59 UTC
"CCP is the husband. We are its wife. Our marriage just hit the 9 year mark. "

So that would make us Tina Turner....and CCP Ike?
Lakshmii
Korona Radiata
#24 - 2011-09-30 20:05:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lakshmii
Let's have a second marriage to renew our vows and rejuvenate our relationship.

ಠ_ರೃ
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#25 - 2011-09-30 20:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Iosue wrote:
Also consider that CCP is not a person, I does not have emotions. It cannot forgive, become angry, kiss and make up.


it CAN hold grudges though apparently

kugutsumen

Renan Ruivo wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
An youre original, locked (IBTL), thread got locked cause you posted a video of a preacher/priest/clergy/religious type guy talking on this subject an EVE-O plus religion = no-no


I quite so happen to know that.. and it was not my intention of having people de-rail the thread with off-topic content. Therefore i made another thread sans-religious stuff. And you're trying to bring it back. Your point?


were I to guess, the point would have been that its against forum rules to re-open threads that the forum moderators have locked.
Usually anyways, but as they havent re-locked this one, guess theyve decided to waive that rule here

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-09-30 20:22:50 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
An youre original, locked (IBTL), thread got locked cause you posted a video of a preacher/priest/clergy/religious type guy talking on this subject an EVE-O plus religion = no-no


I quite so happen to know that.. and it was not my intention of having people de-rail the thread with off-topic content. Therefore i made another thread sans-religious stuff. And you're trying to bring it back. Your point?



My point? Ok, Ill play:
Quote:
23. Reopening a locked thread by creating a new one is not allowed.

Recreating or reopening a thread that has been closed by a moderator is prohibited. Threads that have been closed by a moderator have been closed for the benefit of the community. Reopening a locked thread will result in its removal.



Forum Rules. Helps avoid embarrassment when you read them. Theyre at the top of the page

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2011-09-30 20:31:25 UTC
…btw, you missed the other huge point of that presentation: the difference in the “points” counting system.

Most notably that :effort: is worth exactly zero points from the wife's point of view, whereas asking “Really, how did that make you feel?” is worth more than all Christmases combined.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#28 - 2011-09-30 20:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
I have not re-opened a thread that has been closed by moderation. You are mistaken. Those rules are there for the "good of the community" because some members of the community fail on staying on-topic, and create heated arguments and debates that have nothing to do with what is being proposed or said. I will not debate this matter with you any further. And i suggest that no one does it either.

Thank you for your input.

Tippia wrote:
:effort: is worth exactly zero points from the wife's point of view, whereas asking “Really, how did that make you feel?” is worth more than all Christmases combined.


And that is the underlying point. Communicating =)

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-09-30 20:40:47 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
An youre original, locked (IBTL), thread got locked cause you posted a video of a preacher/priest/clergy/religious type guy talking on this subject an EVE-O plus religion = no-no


Yet we have the Amarr...Ugh
"If."
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
#30 - 2011-09-30 21:20:47 UTC
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#31 - 2011-09-30 21:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?

I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.

If more people thought like this the forums would be better.
Sonia Abrao
#32 - 2011-09-30 21:48:13 UTC
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?


Actually, OP seems to be more grown up than most men i've met (Including you, perhaps?). Don't know if that is the analogy i'd use when talking about us <.> CCP (even though it fits), but that man sure knows how to appeal to a woman ShockedShocked
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
#33 - 2011-09-30 21:50:00 UTC
non judgement wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?

I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.

If more people thought like this the forums would be better.

Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better.

Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.
Sonia Abrao
#34 - 2011-09-30 21:52:40 UTC
non judgement wrote:
If more people thought like this the forums would be better.



Hell.. if more MEN were like this then women all around the world would be happier Bear
Sonia Abrao
#35 - 2011-09-30 21:54:00 UTC
Envoy Achates wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?

I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.

If more people thought like this the forums would be better.

Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better.

Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.




Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
#36 - 2011-09-30 21:58:31 UTC
Sonia Abrao wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?

I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.

If more people thought like this the forums would be better.

Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better.

Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.




Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.

Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me.

but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you.
Sonia Abrao
#37 - 2011-09-30 22:28:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Sonia Abrao
Envoy Achates wrote:
Sonia Abrao wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Envoy Achates wrote:
OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?

I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.

If more people thought like this the forums would be better.

Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better.

Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.




Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.

Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me.

but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you.


Ah, it all makes sense now. I apologize. You are not immature.

You just don't know the meaning of the world "Analogy".

And i suspect that you will reply saying that you do, and that the analogy is "fail".


If you think that the OP suggested, or actually thinks that we are in a romantic relationship with CCP then you fail at text comprehension and tongue-in-cheek humour.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#38 - 2011-09-30 22:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Envoy Achates wrote:


Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me.

but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you.


Quite shocking that someone well into his 20s doesn't seem to comprehend that its just an analogy. All hes doing is taking another scenario and relating it Eve, I don't think he actually thinks CCP is his husband(maybe though).

Edit: Damn Sonia beat me to it.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2011-09-30 22:33:02 UTC
wow...this thread is a winner!
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#40 - 2011-09-30 22:37:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
Sonia Abrao wrote:
non judgement wrote:
If more people thought like this the forums would be better.



Hell.. if more MEN were like this then women all around the world would be happier Bear



Sonia Abrao wrote:
that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.


/me puts hands on waist, stuffs chest, looks up and around and smiles like a nitwit.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.