Science & Industry

it has just nothing to do with each other so it is not a better oportunity. Also Datacores are gona cost isk wich will make T2 BPO`s even more powerfull, eventually.So yea CCP totaly cares about T2 BPO`s, heh.




never give up a pointless war!

Never mind laughing down all the cockamamie ideas proposed to recall or void BPO's, or improve the ME of invention. Such proposals are naive in the extreme and would actually do more harm than good to invention as a source of income. The reality is the proponents of such ideas are just flat out incapable of grasping why they're wrong. But let's pretend they'r right.

Instead, here's why T2 BPO's are an excellent feature of Eve and ought to remain in the game for their own sake.

Eve isn't like most games. You can really spend some time executing a plan. The ceiling is so high that it can take years for an enterprise to reach its goal. That's amazing! I can't think of another game that even attempts that, let alone approaches the same level of success in achieving it.

T2 BPO's exist to provide one such long term goal for people who enjoy industry. They're not really there for people who just want to generate ISK for a PLEX every month or to pay for their PVP. They represent a hefty investment just so that a single production line makes a couple hundred thousand more ISK an hour. There are any number of things the junior and intermediate industrialist can do that provide a better result in less time than saving up for a BPO.

If you took T2 BPO's out, the game would be a lot less interesting. Not only for the people who played and planed for ages in order to acquire one, but also for the people who wish to in their own future endeavors. There are any number of games where anybody who spends a month or two getting to level cap is on equal footing with the rest of the server. The long term goal of an extremely rare asset like a T2 BPO is one of the unique and integral selling points of Eve. Never mind how they got here in the first place. Even if they were specifically gifted to Eve's most prominent players, those players didn't reach such status by grinding rats and missions for a couple of months. If you're 100% right that just means they used cunning and back room deals and bribery to secure a handful of amazing assets. What other game would let you even contemplate such a strategy?

Even if we cede all your points, and agree completely that they are over powered money faucets, were handed out for free by corrupt game developers to their favorite cronies, and distort the economy to such a huge extent that whole segments of the market are off limits to inventors as a result, T2 BPO's would still be an awesome thing to have in the game.

If you took them out just so that anybody who's trained up a month's worth of skills and saved a pittance in seed money can play the industry game at its maximum level, Eve would be a blander, less exciting, less attractive game. The fact that the arguments put forward in favor of removing BPO's are total bunk doesn't even matter.

They're here. They're awesome. You don't have one. Get used to it.

Thanks man.

Good to know that the whiners still cba to get off their backsides to go out and earn enough to get a T2 bpo or just STFU and quit being Entitlement Babies.

MeMeMeMeMe Whaaaaaaa!

--------> Location of forums where T2 BPO's are sold
<------- Location of wallet that shows how many iskies you have.

When Wallet > T2 BPO cost. Purchase. Win \o/!

Akita T, you have to have saintly patience to deal with the constant harping on this issue. You have my respect.

I think I shall have to purchase as many T2 BPO's as I can regardless of any sort of profitability. Just cause I can.

If certain corps are 'pets' it's because they spent uncountable man hours to get that way. So that's just awesome that you can succeed so much at this game you effectively become a sleazy, corrupt, fat cat gangster. And if certain players got theirs through personal, social contacts that's also awesome. I started playing Eve after hearing people talk excitedly about the Machiavellian plots and intrigues that went on completely outside of the game in order to pull off a major coup within it. That's awesome. Both things you're complaining about are awesome. You take them away, you don't have Eve anymore. You make the game less of a sandbox and more like Space Ships: Online.

Exactly I don't own one because I don't manufacture anything, im perfectly happy buying up everything and relisting at a higher price, Don't need them to be profitable, but it would be nice if those certain T2 BPO owners would go away I would make a whole lot more ISK if 1000 stacks didn't just appear within 48 hours cutting off my profit margin.

Merchants would definitely benefit from the removal of T2 BPO's and Most definitely benefit from NPC seeded T2 BPC's (more stuff to sell)

And what EXACTLY are you trying to insinuate with THAT anyway ?
Care to be a bit more specific in your aimless allegations ?

If an organization used their networks to gather intelligence on how to best acquire an asset, that's playing smart. That's maximizing your likelihood of success using all the tools you have available. So what if it's cheating? Being able to cheat is part of what makes Eve awesome.

You say major alliances receive preferential treatment. What actually happens is major alliances work long and hard to put themselves in a position of power and reap the rewards. What sort of a sandbox would you like? One where wealth and power are meaningless? Where holding all the cards means you're just as likely to succeed as the next guy? Eve is uniquely awesome because as much goes on outside of the game as inside. If you couldn't use your digital wealth and power to garner social, diplomatic support, to garner more wealth and power, it wouldn't be Eve. You're complaining about this game's best feature.

Lol fair enough. I wouldn't mind podding this guy a few times actually.

Fixed that for you. T2 BPOs (and blueprints in general) are something that can be used without any risk, unlike every other item in the game. Rare/unique ships/modules/etc must be undocked, and therefore put at risk, to use. For something as valuable as a T2 BPO this is unacceptable. Really, it's unacceptable for anything in EVE, regardless of value.

If stations were destructible, on the other hand, I might not be complaining.