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Richie Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-01 15:38:39 UTC
I was told to run Sisters of EVE missions or something like that so I'd just been doing that to get some quick ISK. Now I've came up against some boss or something that drains my energy and can heal its armor faster then I kill it. As a result I've just been idly sitting in base training up various explorations and tackler skills unsure weather I should just complete the mission, somehow, or joint a corp and do whatever corp stuff is. Anybody have some generic advice as to where to go from here?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2012-05-01 15:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Some real quick fixes for you.

1. ask for someone in local to help you out (this one will probably be the easiest ... though keep in mind that *some* people will take the drop needed to complete the mission [if any] because they can).
2. train gunnery support skills (sharpshooter, etc ... so you hit harder)
3. train cap skills (so the neut doesn't affect you *as much*)
4. use a bigger ship (e.g. a cruiser if you're in a frig/dessie ... or maybe a BC)
5. snipe him (use railguns) from outside the range of the neut
6. Drones

Note that this is specific to the SoE mission bit. If you want to join a corp or something, then by all means do that too.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#3 - 2012-05-01 16:36:15 UTC
The SoE arc is recommended for newbies as it gives them a tour around all the four empires, and gives them a taste of different kinds of PvE and mechanics available. It's by no means "required" and you do not have to finish it to move on with Eve. Velicitia's post contains a bunch of good advice on how to complete some of the tougher missions. Asking for help is the "traditional" way, as there is never a shortage of veteran players who would just love a chance to beat the snot out of the same NPC that thwarted them years ago as he is thwarting you now.

I do recommend joining a corp, though. Eve is a completely different experience with a group of cool people compared to alone. With friends it's just that much more fun.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2012-05-01 16:51:30 UTC
Do make sure though to pick corps wisely. I had a friend that just recently joined and in less than 24 hours was in a corp that was letting in newbs.

...He left rather quick when one of the mining members asked fro some hauling help and was ganked instead. xD
(Yes members of player corps can freely shoot each other without CONCORD showing up)

Just make sure to try to find a group of active people that aren't all newbs. While learning EVE together sounds like a good idea, if you all happen to make a misjudgment and then teach it to each other then you'll all be thinking that something is one way when it's not and that just holds you back a peg.

So make sure you have a older player to consult (like myself).

Speaking of which feel free to join my channel as listed in my bio page. You can just hang out there or ask pretty much any question you have. I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-05-01 16:53:43 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

Kristan? I remember Dagan. Who's Kristan?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#6 - 2012-05-01 16:59:16 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

Kristan? I remember Dagan. Who's Kristan?


The Harbinger/Prophecy that neuts you in the mission right before Dagan.

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-05-01 17:02:16 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

Kristan? I remember Dagan. Who's Kristan?


The Harbinger/Prophecy that neuts you in the mission right before Dagan.

Oh right, I think I remember him... I was using an arty Thrasher and I didn't do enough DPS to kill him. I got some help from a vet in a Harbinger IIRC, and was completely stunned at the amount of damage he put out.

Good times, good times.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-05-01 17:42:04 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

Kristan? I remember Dagan. Who's Kristan?


The Harbinger/Prophecy that neuts you in the mission right before Dagan.

Oh right, I think I remember him... I was using an arty Thrasher and I didn't do enough DPS to kill him. I got some help from a vet in a Harbinger IIRC, and was completely stunned at the amount of damage he put out.

Good times, good times.


I once helped a guy kill Kristan with a tachyon abaddon. Back then I nearly one shotted him. And i didn't even have T2 lasers or any heat sinks on xD

I'd also help newbs kill Dagan with a macherial sometimes. It would always be funny to see my mach fly faster then a newb's dessy or cruiser xD

The Drake is a Lie

Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-05-02 11:09:33 UTC
I got lucky on Kristan, had an poorly fitted Omen with a drone (yeah, only one, I know...) and the fierce little buddy got the aggro instead of me but was too fast and too close for the prophecy to hit it, so I wasn't bothered by the neut at all and could shoot the bugger down quietly. Successful aggro mismanagement :)
Damn, twas about 3 months ago already...

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Corbin Blair
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-02 11:49:17 UTC
Richie Cadelanne wrote:
I was told to run Sisters of EVE missions or something like that so I'd just been doing that to get some quick ISK. Now I've came up against some boss or something that drains my energy and can heal its armor faster then I kill it. As a result I've just been idly sitting in base training up various explorations and tackler skills unsure weather I should just complete the mission, somehow, or joint a corp and do whatever corp stuff is. Anybody have some generic advice as to where to go from here?

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#11 - 2012-05-02 17:43:34 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I also wouldn't mind helping kill Kristan for you xD

Kristan? I remember Dagan. Who's Kristan?


Kristan Parnus (sp?) is the heavy offensive one a couple missions before Dagan. Since Dagan is the opposite (weak offense, rather absurdly strong defense for an L1, even an epic L1) generally a player with a given setup and inclinations will have issues with one or the other, but usually not both.

I assume this was intentional on the part of whoever designed the questline. Most of the epic lines do this, I think, have a quest that favors one fit and then a couple steps later one that favors another.
Richie Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-05-04 18:03:43 UTC
So, I've been salvaging for junk and stuff at magonemetic and hacking sites. The raw parts don't seem to have any real value on the market, is there something I am supposed to do to them to make them worth more?
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#13 - 2012-05-04 18:08:28 UTC
Richie Cadelanne wrote:
So, I've been salvaging for junk and stuff at magonemetic and hacking sites. The raw parts don't seem to have any real value on the market, is there something I am supposed to do to them to make them worth more?

Most of the stuff in mag sites (Mechanical Parts, etc) is junk and already available in staggeringly high quantities. You can usually make more money from radar sites, but even then the payout is not certain. You can get very lucky, however, as both kinds sites can drop hundreds of millions of ISK worth of stuff now and then.

It's a gamble, but it's more fun than belt ratting or missioning.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Toshiro GreyHawk
#14 - 2012-05-04 18:21:50 UTC


Some activities in EVE are chance based. Loot drops ... Salvage ... etc.

Here - what happens is that you get a bunch of crap that isn't worth very much - but every now and then you get something that is.

Security Levels play a part in some of this. The lower the security level of the system - the better a chance you have of getting something good - one way or the other. For example - lower security systems have bigger rats - and bigger rats drop better loot and have better salvage. A rookie ship rat may not drop anything very good, whatever system it's in - but then in the lower security systems - you'll see fewer rookie ship rats and more tougher ones.



Salvage has dropped in value a lot, especially the Melted Capacitor Consoles ... which used to be really good and now are worth much less. This has hurt Salvage in Amarr space where you saw more of those. Gallente & Caldari space has always had less valuable salvage while Minmatar space has more Alloyed Tritanium Bars which are good. Every where has Armor Plates and they're good - but yes - a lot, in fact the majority of what you get isn't worth that much, though it does add up. One of something may not be worth that much but if you've accumulated hundreds of them they may be.

So - what you get out of much of these chance based activities should average out over time. Of course .. if your luck stinks ... then what you should be getting doesn't matter.

*shrug*

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#15 - 2012-05-04 18:27:03 UTC
So, something I should mention before you run into a brick wall, since I think I see you headed there: Eve is a massively multiplayer experience, and focusing on the single player content will only bore you to tears.

PvE exists not as a means to its own end (grinding missions so you can get shinier ships to grind missions to get shinier ships to grind missions), but rather as ISK-making endeavors supporting whatever else you want to do -- PvP, industry, trading, running a corp, etc. All of those involve very deep mechanics and interacting with others around you, which is the source of endless fun and unique experiences... something that you won't get from straight up repetitive grindey PvE.

This is what the whole "find a corp" talk is on about. Find a group of people who like doing the same sort of stuff you do, and... well... do it! Most of these activities of this kind have low entry bars and lots of room to get better or to learn, so you can get started right away and have fun.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#16 - 2012-05-06 20:21:16 UTC
As others have said,be very careful when joining your first corp. You might be lucky and find a great corp from the start,but sadly in most cases the new players have no idea what to look out for and what to be aware of when trying to find a decent corp.
The issues can be anything from an inactive corp,scammers,people who blow you up for fun and simply just the wrong personalety for you.

I advice you to take some time to read over this thread. In it you will find a lot of advice and comments from both older exsperiensed players,and young players who share their own exsperienses when trying to find a corp to join.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943&find=unread

I wish you the best of luck and hang in there. Things will be easier as you go and you wont feel so overwhelmed Smile