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I think Tengu is too much powerful
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Saladinae
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#121 - 2012-04-30 15:18:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Saladinae
Liang Nuren wrote:


I prefer communicating with you via the TEXT of your loss mail.

-Liang

Going to argue I shouldn't fit a cloak + 2 bubbles on a heretic? That's the only ship I fly on this character.

Also further proof that you can't provide a loadout.

Winmatar > Everything else
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#122 - 2012-04-30 17:34:29 UTC
Vladimir Norkoff wrote:
Holy necro Batman!

I thought this thread was dead. And why are people quoting me so much?! I particularly like the bit with the smack-talking me a month after the fact. Gotta love these forums! Big smile


Well, at least you weren't alone in getting smacked a month later. :brofist:

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#123 - 2012-04-30 17:36:11 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:


I prefer communicating with you via the TEXT of your loss mail.

-Liang

Going to argue I shouldn't fit a cloak + 2 bubbles on a heretic? That's the only ship I fly on this character.

Also further proof that you can't provide a loadout.


The loss mail of your Heretic works too, but it's not really the topic of the thread.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Viribus
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#124 - 2012-04-30 19:56:34 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Just while were necroing this god awful thread

http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=229675

No nothing can kill Tengus...

(Copy paste it, clicking it doesnt work for some reason)


Viribus wrote:
Fit up a 100mn tengu with T2 mods and no implants or links and see how well it does, then when you die to a single armour cane tell me how OP tengus are.


lmao

watch me be a scurb and get owned
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#125 - 2012-04-30 20:04:06 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Denuo Secus wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
The only issue I have with the tengu (coming from someone with 2 tengu toons) is mostly with the missile system. Show me any other cruiser class ship that can apply full DPS from essentially 0 to 100km.


It does not apply 'full DPS' to all kinds of targets. Missiles have weak points as well as turrets.


Sure they do. But in practice their weakness is not the same, and in my opinion not as bad as turrets.

Your opinion is simply wrong. I really hate people spewing nonsense like this about missiles.
Saladinae
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#126 - 2012-04-30 20:19:34 UTC
Viribus wrote:
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Just while were necroing this god awful thread

http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=229675

No nothing can kill Tengus...

(Copy paste it, clicking it doesnt work for some reason)


Viribus wrote:
Fit up a 100mn tengu with T2 mods and no implants or links and see how well it does, then when you die to a single armour cane tell me how OP tengus are.


lmao

Except any decent tengu pilot has the freedom to faction/complex fit his tengu in low sec/null sec because of its covert abilities and warp bubble immunity, where t2 bc's cannot do such a thing. So arguing that one should compare it to a complex/faction fit t2 bc is talking nonsense, because you cannot risk flying around in a faction/complex t2 bc in low/null sec in order to fight a tengu.

Winmatar > Everything else
Trulaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-04-30 21:13:57 UTC
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#128 - 2012-04-30 22:01:27 UTC
It costs over 500Mil for just the hull and subsystems.
Of course it's going to PWN your Tech 1 Ship, and most of the time Tech 2 ships.

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Jarin Arenos
Card Shark Industries
#129 - 2012-04-30 22:38:15 UTC
Trulaine wrote:
Pilgrim ganking mission-fit tengu with NPC help

Edited for accuracy.

But I'm not CCP Soundwave, so what do I know?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#130 - 2012-04-30 22:53:39 UTC
Saladinae wrote:
Viribus wrote:
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Just while were necroing this god awful thread

http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=229675

No nothing can kill Tengus...

(Copy paste it, clicking it doesnt work for some reason)


Viribus wrote:
Fit up a 100mn tengu with T2 mods and no implants or links and see how well it does, then when you die to a single armour cane tell me how OP tengus are.


lmao

Except any decent tengu pilot has the freedom to faction/complex fit his tengu in low sec/null sec because of its covert abilities and warp bubble immunity, where t2 bc's cannot do such a thing. So arguing that one should compare it to a complex/faction fit t2 bc is talking nonsense, because you cannot risk flying around in a faction/complex t2 bc in low/null sec in order to fight a tengu.


I haven't seen any meaningful PVP Tengu fits featuring both the interdiction nullifier and covert subsystems.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Saladinae
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#131 - 2012-04-30 23:07:44 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Saladinae wrote:
Viribus wrote:
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Just while were necroing this god awful thread

http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=229675

No nothing can kill Tengus...

(Copy paste it, clicking it doesnt work for some reason)


Viribus wrote:
Fit up a 100mn tengu with T2 mods and no implants or links and see how well it does, then when you die to a single armour cane tell me how OP tengus are.


lmao

Except any decent tengu pilot has the freedom to faction/complex fit his tengu in low sec/null sec because of its covert abilities and warp bubble immunity, where t2 bc's cannot do such a thing. So arguing that one should compare it to a complex/faction fit t2 bc is talking nonsense, because you cannot risk flying around in a faction/complex t2 bc in low/null sec in order to fight a tengu.


I haven't seen any meaningful PVP Tengu fits featuring both the interdiction nullifier and covert subsystems.

-Liang


You only need to fit one of them not both. You also haven't provided a loadout yet.

Winmatar > Everything else
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#132 - 2012-04-30 23:17:31 UTC
Saladinae wrote:

You only need to fit one of them not both. You also haven't provided a loadout yet.


And I'm not going to - I'm looking forward to my free Tengu kills. I'd hate to spoil the surprises. :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Trulaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2012-05-01 01:35:59 UTC
Arty fit Apoc does the job very well . Catch one decloaking after a gate jump. I lost a couple of expensive fits that way Lol. They must of had an alt doing a scan res on me. I popped like popcorn.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-05-01 03:10:48 UTC
I am so happy CCP said that the Tengu is the one T3 they are perfectly fine with c:

Ferox #1
Viribus
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#135 - 2012-05-01 03:30:02 UTC
Saladinae wrote:

You only need to fit one of them not both. You also haven't provided a loadout yet.


Oh so you can choose between doing 300 dps, or being slower than a drake? Awesome, glad to hear your valuable input on how overpowered tengus are when you clearly have no idea how they're fit

watch me be a scurb and get owned
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#136 - 2012-05-01 12:42:37 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Just while were necroing this god awful thread

http://kb.cva-eve.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=229675

No nothing can kill Tengus...

(Copy paste it, clicking it doesnt work for some reason)
Large Shield Booster with no cap injector?

Congrats on killing an idiot. If you find more of them, please send a few my way! Not diminishing your kill or anything. You did after all take on 2 of them solo with a Cane. But that Tengu was god awful. Honestly wtf was he thinking?
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#137 - 2012-05-01 13:56:51 UTC
Tengus aren't too powerful the problem is that every other T3 isn't powerful enough.
Kos Equinox
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2012-05-01 15:06:49 UTC
I hate 100mn tengu's with the burning passion of ten thousand suns and would be the first to throw a party if they were removed from the game.

Fighting one on it's own is bad enough, let alone when they group up and have offgrid boosting.

That said they are fine.

/Thread.

P.s. Gif that was made after a bunch of our gate-camps got broke up by 100mn Tengu's.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2012-05-01 19:27:16 UTC
Vladimir Norkoff wrote:
Honestly wtf was he thinking?


"I have a 100MN AB, how can I possibly lose?"

The hilarious part is that he probably still had cap to run that LSB, since the Cane didn't have neuts.
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#140 - 2012-05-02 07:36:10 UTC
Stop this tengu nerf bull.
2 trends in the same page there is nothing wrong with the tengu other then brainless people trying to kill it and failing.