EVE General Discussion

Then it shouldn't have mining in it, yet it does! How odd.
Its certainly one of the games less appealing features, and yet people are drawn to it all the same. There might even be more dedicated miners than there are pvpers. Scary, eh?

Try just doing something else for awhile. Mining is boring anyway; you don't really want to do it do you?

Ahem.. right, so you've run into the cost vs. profit situation where the Hulk costs more than is reasonable with a high potential of losing it? Of course you have. At 275 million ISK for such a vehicle, how could you not?

Possible solutions, aside from doing something else or fleet warping a ganksquad on the gankers:

Fly a Covetor. Much less expensive, and you can fit it to tank half decently, plus you are no longer such a juicy target for the gankers trying to max. out Hulk kills for 100 Million ISK per 10 kills on top of loot.

Actually, aside from flying a Retriever, Mackinaw, or Battleship, that is probably your best option. You stand to lose a lot less, and finding alternative places to mine in quiet areas with your fleet of similarly fit and flying friends makes you a lot less juicy of a target.

With a larger fleet, you collectively mine more per hour, have potentially got Orca assistance, become one of a number, and each loss is less when compared to the whole. In fact, you can even prepare fleets to protect you from gankers and get in on the kills with Concord when they do come.

Sure, they might get one or two ships here and there, but with not only Concord, but your own friends fit and ready to take them on, you stand a better chance of reducing risk even more.

Do you think someone is going to suicide 20 Thrashers or a Tornado for a Covetor Hull? Anything else gives your fleet time to prevent it.

Also, you might want to think of not fitting rediculously expensive modules that might make the kill worthwhile, and at least try to make sure every ship in fleet that is mining is virtually indistinguishable from every other ship mining in fleet as far as that goes. Without any juicy targets they are likely to move on unless they figure they can get the whole lot of you at once.

Then all these miners should try to learn a thing or two about pvp and stop crying about getting ganked, it's getting pathetic.

Actually, it would probably be more fun for everyone concerned.

Here's the thing:

I've been doing this for years now. It's been well publicized over and over, I announce the event far in advance through every medium I can find...

...and two days later there is still 800 people dead.

I really can't think of any excuses other than pilot error at this point.

PEBCAC.

Hrmmm.. dont fly hulk? Just get in a damn retriever if you really must mine during the event.. or maybe a BS with 8 turret slots? Have someone in fleet boosting max shield bonuses? Go to lo sec and have some of you pvp minded friends sit with you killing everything that enters your belt or better yet the gate? Or maybe... go do something else entirely

You now market go and 2 billion isk Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field buy. Then you it fit together with 165m Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier and 500m Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster. Pro fit complete with 2xMedium Cargohold Optimization II 200m/each and can you not be ganked!!1

This you will alive keep info!

One option during Hulkageddon is to head out to low sec where it's safer: fewer people around means you have local chat as a perfect intel tool. Someone appears in local, dock at the station.

Another option is to mine grav sites (which tend to be more profitable anyway). Just keep D-scan open and look for probes. You'll need to mash it though, since probes only have to be in space for 5 seconds to find you. D-scan has a cycle limit of once every two seconds.

Another option is to trade in minerals. Buy low, sell very high. The time you spend mining can be spent trading instead, for massive profits.

Of course, there is the "Summer of Rage" option: unsubscribe your account for May and let CCP know that you resent being a sitting duck in a paper bag. This will be a form of Darwinian selection though, since the people who quit for this reason are very unlikely to come back. Thus we'll have fewer people whining about Hulkageddon.

A valid reason to buff the Hulk is that its power grid and CPU aren't comparable with ships of similar size. An invalid reason to buff the Hulk is that it's the target of Hulkageddon. A valid complaint about mining ships is that MLUs penalise the CPU, while no other purpose-enhancing module penalises the CPU of the host ship (mag stabs, gyrostabs, tracking enhancers, etc). In those cases, I'd prefer to see combat ships suffer CPU penalties for using purpose-enhancing modules.

In the meantime, Hulkageddon is on. Fly carefully, or find alternative options for your play time.

1) Stop mining.
2) Play GW2 beta.
3) Be annoyed they don't release it tomorrow.

CCP have really screwed up this time


For the next month (or more), nobody will want to mine

Nevermind mining in nullsec, this will lead to fewer Hisec miners, hence screw up the total Eve economy

For all you Low/Null sec miners: enjoy finding trit so easily in Empire, without mining it yourself

Less Hisec Miners=even less low/nullsec miners (by making mining suicidal, it may well lead to the death of Eve)