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Tinfoil Dan
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-04-30 20:00:57 UTC
Woah, all this time I thought that the servers did all the processing and sent data to the game client for our computers to make pretty internet spaceship visuals and give command feedback.

I knew I could modify the program somehow to have all those cloaked ships who's data isn't being sent to my computer to show up.. Woah....... Gotta thank the zombie king for telling me this information.

I mean the coding should be so secure that not even the developers can modify it. I mean anybody can get all that non transmitted data and do whatever they want. I myself run 12 dcus without stack penalty on my freighters!

After all, nothing bad would ever come out of a conflict of interest of developers feeding gameplay items. I mean all those T2 bpos that were given out back in the day by the devs was perfectly legit!

I blame it on the space mutant dinosaurs from the myhical magic transdimensionalship "Pluto"
Alicia Fermi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-04-30 20:01:16 UTC
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Alicia Fermi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-04-30 20:01:48 UTC
Alicia Fermi wrote:
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

:sadface:
Edington Trent
Prompt Critical
#44 - 2012-04-30 20:19:04 UTC
A Friend wrote:


It`s about time the game was run bythe players and not governed by CCP.



got to here before I totally lost it

"how dare you, CCP! How dare you allow us to spend our money on your product and not even make us code EVE ourselves!"
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#45 - 2012-04-30 20:38:25 UTC
The Earth is flat.

My tinfoil hat (5 for $5) started overheating so I'm standing under my shower whilst I type this.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#46 - 2012-04-30 21:12:33 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Posting to confirm that crack is bad.

So is LSD.


It can lead to paranoid delusions.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#47 - 2012-04-30 21:20:38 UTC
Tinfoil Dan wrote:
Woah, all this time I thought that the servers did all the processing and sent data to the game client for our computers to make pretty internet spaceship visuals and give command feedback.

I knew I could modify the program somehow to have all those cloaked ships who's data isn't being sent to my computer to show up.. Woah....... Gotta thank the zombie king for telling me this information.


In many ways this. Then again some of the old code in EVE has been a bit dodgy in the past. The not appearing in local exploit comes to mind. That really seemed like soemthing that shouldn't have been possible to manipulate client side.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-04-30 21:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
A Friend wrote:
Recent activity by Goons and pets and all that are involved in anything that creates more revenue for CCP has left me with no alternative to post this thread that.

A. Is BOB back in desguise..

B. Hiding in the form of the programming team at CCP.

C. Leaving holes in the Exe PRogram (EvE.EXE) that allows for plug-ins.

plug-ins that give people with the hand me down knowledge of software passed out the back door of CCP employers to manipulate the game play for there own advantage.

IE. this cloaky hunter ship that was bought about as a disscusion prior this years fanfest. Well in my belief the programmers wrote in a back door plug-in for this potential. Along with plenty of other back door options for certain other hack or game altering events, that give them an advantage.

If you have anything you would like to add to this thread feel free. both for and against this suggestion.

It`s about time the game was run bythe players and not governed by CCP.

hopefully as a team of players this might rasie some issues about one of the most popular games on the internet today which is going south, while still making CCP planty of £$ around the world.

IdeaEvilWhat?


Yeah you know they planned BJ with CCP.

eh I dont mean it like that.,.. Burn Jita -.-

It has come to my attention you need to inhale less tinfoil

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#49 - 2012-04-30 21:41:43 UTC
Are you an idiot, OP, or are you just stupid? Kthxbai.

E:

This is why PCP is dangerous, kids.

I have come to eat all your brains.
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#50 - 2012-04-30 21:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Syrennis
KnightRider2000 wrote:
being afk cloaky dosent to anything. if you want to use cloaky ships to attack an alliance in their own space thats is a good use for cloaked fleets and black op's fleets. but just comming to a system and sitting there cloaked up is griefing. either fight or give the defenders a way to deal with them.


Oh, OK, so this is another more-stealthy-than-normal "NURRV CLOACKING!!!111!!oneone!" thread.

K, gotcha.

And no, AFK cloaking is not griefing, it's psychological warfare.

Next!

E: Oh look, I made a pun!

I have come to eat all your brains.
KnightRider2000
Redneck Round Table
#51 - 2012-04-30 22:35:37 UTC
By your thought process then, bumping miners in high sec is a valid game tactic as well. and yet CCP is quick to jump on people who bump. is that also a valid game tactic? why should griefing by cloking up while not at your computer be any different? at least if your bumping a miner then you ARE at the keyboard.

and before you give me that BS about AFK clokers not being a threat, they are more of a threat that bumping a miner in high sec.
A Friend
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-04-30 22:35:42 UTC
Tenebrae Syrennis wrote:
KnightRider2000 wrote:
being afk cloaky dosent to anything. if you want to use cloaky ships to attack an alliance in their own space thats is a good use for cloaked fleets and black op's fleets. but just comming to a system and sitting there cloaked up is griefing. either fight or give the defenders a way to deal with them.


Oh, OK, so this is another more-stealthy-than-normal "NURRV CLOACKING!!!111!!oneone!" thread.

K, gotcha.

And no, AFK cloaking is not griefing, it's psychological warfare.

Next!

E: Oh look, I made a pun!



Ah soomeone finally clocked it of course it`s psychological warefare but where will it end ?
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#53 - 2012-04-30 23:11:05 UTC
KnightRider2000 wrote:
By your thought process then, bumping miners in high sec is a valid game tactic as well. and yet CCP is quick to jump on people who bump. is that also a valid game tactic? why should griefing by cloking up while not at your computer be any different? at least if your bumping a miner then you ARE at the keyboard.

and before you give me that BS about AFK clokers not being a threat, they are more of a threat that bumping a miner in high sec.

I have never heard anything on CCP jumping on people who bump miners. Any references for this? Not saying I don't believe you I'm just curious.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-05-01 00:12:31 UTC
FluffyDice wrote:

In many ways this. Then again some of the old code in EVE has been a bit dodgy in the past. The not appearing in local exploit comes to mind. That really seemed like soemthing that shouldn't have been possible to manipulate client side.


Oh, never heard of that myself, hmm... that would be something interesting. Sounds to me like the client sends confirmation that it received the jump or something. By hiding a handshake/etc it wouldn't initialize loading of local for others.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#55 - 2012-05-01 00:14:38 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Tinfoil hats for sale!

$5 each or 5 for $30



I'LL TAKE 10

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#56 - 2012-05-01 00:31:41 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Oh, never heard of that myself, hmm... that would be something interesting. Sounds to me like the client sends confirmation that it received the jump or something. By hiding a handshake/etc it wouldn't initialize loading of local for others.

Something along those lines. My favorite part of the drama surrounding that exploit was that the very publicly accused user of it always denied anything dodgy. He claimed he just a secret technique he was using to catch bots. When you look at his killboard he was killing golems and other stupidly expensive ratting ships with his main and 2 alts nearly every 10 minutes. After it was patched he suddenly became very mediocre only getting rather ordinary kills in 20 man fleets .
Corbin Blair
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-05-01 01:11:34 UTC
Goon bashing? Check. Crazy conspiracy theory? Check. Barely comprehensible English? Check. Yep, this is a terrible thread alright.
A Friend
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-05-01 01:20:32 UTC
yeah it went south with the trolls please come back. for more in the week Oops
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-05-01 01:22:09 UTC
Posting to confirm that OP needs more tinfoil.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#60 - 2012-05-01 02:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Syrennis
KnightRider2000 wrote:
By your thought process then, bumping miners in high sec is a valid game tactic as well. and yet CCP is quick to jump on people who bump. is that also a valid game tactic? why should griefing by cloking up while not at your computer be any different? at least if your bumping a miner then you ARE at the keyboard.

and before you give me that BS about AFK clokers not being a threat, they are more of a threat that bumping a miner in high sec.


"You're," not "your." Whinging is much more credible when it doesn't make you look like a functional illiterate.

(What's a "cloker," by the way?)

Oh, and just because you refuse to believe that something is true doesn't make it untrue: If he's AFK, then he can't threaten/do anything to you, QED.

Next!

I have come to eat all your brains.
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